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    Quote Originally Posted by yapster View Post
    9 goals is not in the least impressive for a striker of Doyle's caliber,
    he should get more goals but he can only score with the chances that are created by the team, Torres would struggle to get much more than that with Wolves. They have done very well but they could never be accused of playing all out attackin football
    Its really not that complicated!!!

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    Typical Yapster idiocy, presented withe an extremely impressive statistic(by any striker's standards) and indeed, it might have been closer to a third of the Wolves total, and he still manages to come up with a cretinous and disengenuous putdown.

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    It is not a putdown it is a statistic! I don't think you can compare Doyle with Torres either. I have praised Doyle for his workrate and his attitude so I am not putting down the lad. Yes he would score more with an endless supply, anyone would. I just think he needs to score more for club & country. Hopefully he will move to a club where he can fulfill his potential as a striker.

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    I actually think Torres is a decent comparison in terms of the job they're expected to do. Torres would score more than 9 goals for Wolves, no question, because he's one of the most complete players in world football, but Liverpool do often struggle when Torres is isolated up front the way Doyle has been for Wolves. Hopefully, if he stays at Wolves, they do pick up a couple of players in the Hunt mould who can link up with Doyle and provide him more chances.

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    He only got 2 goals in Ireland's last campaign but his contribution was much better than that. Doyle was played upfront alone in a struggling team. He did well enough I reckon. How many goals did Wolves' other forwards score?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    He only got 2 goals in Ireland's last campaign but his contribution was much better than that. Doyle was played upfront alone in a struggling team. He did well enough I reckon. How many goals did Wolves' other forwards score?
    Here are the stats from Wolves' "strikers"

    (League stats only)

    Doyle: 9 goals in in 33 starts, 1 sub appearance
    Ebanks-Blake: 2 goals in 13 starts, 10 sub appearances
    Keogh: 1 goal in 8 starts, 5 sub appearances
    Maierhofer: 1 goal in 1 start, 7 sub appearances
    Iwelumo: 0 goals in 2 starts, 13 sub appearances
    Volks: 0 goals in 5 sub appearances


    Their second top scorer after Doyle was their captain (centre-half), Craddock, with 5 goals in 33 starts, with Jarvis (winger) coming in third place with 3 goals in 30 starts and 4 sub appearances.

    http://www.wolves.co.uk/page/Playera...,10307,00.html


    It really is a miracle they managed to stay in the league considering the complete inability of the team to score goals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by irishfan86 View Post
    Here are the stats from Wolves' "strikers"

    (League stats only)

    Doyle: 9 goals in in 33 starts, 1 sub appearance
    Ebanks-Blake: 2 goals in 13 starts, 10 sub appearances
    Keogh: 1 goal in 8 starts, 5 sub appearances
    Maierhofer: 1 goal in 1 start, 7 sub appearances
    Iwelumo: 0 goals in 2 starts, 13 sub appearances
    Volks: 0 goals in 5 sub appearances


    Their second top scorer after Doyle was their captain (centre-half), Craddock, with 5 goals in 33 starts, with Jarvis (winger) coming in third place with 3 goals in 30 starts and 4 sub appearances.

    http://www.wolves.co.uk/page/Playera...,10307,00.html


    It really is a miracle they managed to stay in the league considering the complete inability of the team to score goals.

    The amount of goals scored is pathetic really,but I'm delighted they stayed up because of McCarthy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin View Post
    I actually think Torres is a decent comparison in terms of the job they're expected to do. Torres would score more than 9 goals for Wolves, no question, because he's one of the most complete players in world football, but Liverpool do often struggle when Torres is isolated up front the way Doyle has been for Wolves. Hopefully, if he stays at Wolves, they do pick up a couple of players in the Hunt mould who can link up with Doyle and provide him more chances.
    Oh dear. Doyle is expected to hold the ball up to help out the wolves midfield and defense. Their system is simple "keep the ball as far away as possible from our goal!" fair play to Doyle he did it well and Wolves stayed up.
    Torres is expexted to score a hatful of goals and link the midfield into the Liverpool attack, when on form he does that better than anyone. The fact he was injured so often is reflected in Liverpools poor finish.
    Completely different expectations.
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    It's not very scientific, but it just warmed my heart to turn on R5 Live at 10pm to hear the match summarisers after the Liverpool 0-0 draw to refer to "the outstanding Doyle". Every newspaper or other media report I read said exactly the same. Forwards can play well without scoring.

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    And the fact that he got many such reviews playing on his own against competent defenses. If there was an award for 'signing of the season' surely he would be a top contender.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geysir View Post
    And the fact that he got many such reviews playing on his own against competent defenses. If there was an award for 'signing of the season' surely he would be a top contender.
    Richard Dunne maybe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilkCut View Post
    Oh dear. Doyle is expected to hold the ball up to help out the wolves midfield and defense. Their system is simple "keep the ball as far away as possible from our goal!" fair play to Doyle he did it well and Wolves stayed up.
    Torres is expexted to score a hatful of goals and link the midfield into the Liverpool attack, when on form he does that better than anyone. The fact he was injured so often is reflected in Liverpools poor finish.
    Completely different expectations.
    You're right. It's amazing Wolves won any matches when they were trying so hard not to score goals.

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    I honestly believe that Doyle will go to one of the big 4 before September. He is an outstanding footballer and showed in his 1st season in the premiership that he can score goals - motm every time he pulls on a green jersey - watch this space

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    I know it's less likely, but I'd prefer to see him go to play on the continent than a move to the top 4 in the Premier League
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    i hope he dosent go to arsenal, cause i can see the situation if hes not scoring he will be dropped. if he stays at a club like wolves he will be playing every game. i think people are going over the top about him this season.

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    He has been consistently excellent since he crossed the water. How can you say people are going over the top - just most people have been unaware and are only realising his class now. Watch him tonight and believe.

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    look no one is happier than me when an irish player does well anywhere, i just think people may be exageratting his ability a bit. like with ireland id be way WAY more worried if robbie were injured for us than kevin. he just isnt that much of a goal threat for me, yes he holds it up well but id like to see him score more.

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    To score the goals he did in such a creatively deficient team whilst spending most of his time battling for and holding up possession was some achievement. I think he's actually a very neat finisher when given the opportunities and would dearly love to see him get a run in a top team where his duties would hopefully require less grafting. Then we'd see what he's truly made of. I reckon he'd flourish. Aside from ability, his temperament and intelligence are first class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duggie View Post
    i hope he dosent go to arsenal, cause i can see the situation if hes not scoring he will be dropped. if he stays at a club like wolves he will be playing every game. i think people are going over the top about him this season.
    Playing with better players, no matter what club it's at, will improve his game. He might not be Arsenal standard but he's head and shoulders above the Wolves team and will progress faster at a better club. Villa might be a nice move if Carew jets off.

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    I've been critical of the Robbie-Doyle combination in the past, as I never really thought they played as a two man unit, but against Algeria they seemed to have more of an understanding than I've seen in the past.

    Maybe it was just the poor standard of opposition though.
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