While your other points are fair (though jbyrne has a point too), the above isn't really true. McCarthy will have a staff of coaches who could have any ofa range of imacts on Doyles technique, and McCarthy, while always happy with a fairly direct style of play, like a relatively agressive style of play. Plenty of other teams competing with Wolves will play deeper and make their forwards chase harder.Originally Posted by Jicked
You can't spell failure without FAI
When I see Doyle in the jersey there I got a positive feeling
I know you're kind of joking but it did look right for some reason, hopefully it work out well for him anyway.When I see Doyle in the jersey there I got a positive feeling
Mick McCarthy is a proper legend imo, just listening to him on that YT vid posted and he's great imo. I'd love to see him manage Ireland again. I say he would like to as well.
That is it in a nutshell. Guaranteed to be in the starting lineup week in and week out. A move to one of the more established Prem teams would not have the same comfort. And playing regularly leading up to the WC is essential.
It's a good move for him and I wish him luck. The way he talks about his time at Reading you can tell he truly loved it. And he will be welcomed back with open arms should Reading ever get the chane to re-aqcuire him.
Good luck to Doyler. I hope he bangs in the goals next year.
Yeah good luck to Doyler but would have rathered if he had gone to Fulham or Everton(both apparently had shown interest) imo higher profile clubs and with two good managers and both competing in Europe the whole transfer happened very fast.
Although Wolves have been playing some nice stuff under Mick but I think they could struggle this season anyhow let's hope he bangs in the goals for both his new club and on the international front.
That's right. Mick allows his assistant Terry Connor - a highly regarded coach and an ex-striker - to handle the technical aspects of the strikers coaching. He's massively brought on the games of Ebanks-Blake, Sam Vokes and Andy Keogh in the last few seasons whilst even the more experienced Chris Iwelumo had a good season under him last year.
Doyle to Wolves a “massive blunder” – Dunphy
July 1, 2009
Outspoken pundit Eamon Dunphy has labelled Kevin Doyle’s decision to move to Barclays Premier League new-boys Wolves as a “massive blunder”.
Doyle put pen to paper on a four-year contract at Molineux on Monday night before being paraded before the media on Tuesday morning.
But Dunphy feels he would have been much better served by a move to an established Premier League club, singling out the managerial strengths of Fulham’s Roy Hodgson, Everton’s David Moyes and Steve Bruce at Sunderland, all of whom were reportedly in the market for the Irish Player of the Year.
In his Irish Daily Star column, Dunphy wrote: “I feel that Doyle is a top-class striker and he has been Ireland’s best player under Giovanni Trapattoni.
“But I do feel that he has made a massive blunder by joining Wolves. He should have asked himself this question: if I was good enough to spark Chelsea’s interest 18 months ago, should I now settle for Wolves?
“It’s not as if no other Premier League clubs were interested in signing him. Sunderland, Fulham and Bolton all actively chased his signature and Aston Villa and Everton have also shown an interest in securing his services in the recent past.
“Any one of those clubs would have been a far better destination for Doyle. Fulham, Everton and Villa are clubs on the rise and all of them will be playing in the Europa League next season. And, crucially, all of them have hugely impressive managers who could have helped develop Doyle as a player.”
Interesting reading on here (not from that p*ssed up, no-nothing, attention seeking ballbag Dunphy).
Obviously overjoyed with the signing and personally think that Doyle will become a better player for it. Our players have come on leaps and bounds in the three years since McCarthy has been in charge, hence the reason why he always looks for "young and hungry" players, of which so many have developed (Kightly, Foley, Ward, Ebanks Blake etc.). Much of which is to do with the fact that they have invested heavily in state of the art training facilities hence the reason why our players were the fittest and strongest players in the Championship last season (something that Doyle could do with having only had 4 professional seasons and always appearing to tail off at the end of seasons) and the backroom staff (Terry Connor is one of the highest qualified coaches in the Country)
Don't be fooled with the fallacy that is McCarthy's "direct football" - we play good attracking, passing football, particularly using the wings with Kightly and Jarvis. Although suspect that we will be deploying a 4-5-1 moving to a 4-3-3 fore frequently away from home of which Doyle could well be slightly on the left. This too could see him develop further as the flexibility of positions will make him a better player.
Finally with regards to us going straight down - that remains to be seen. It won't be easy, however Doyle is a statement of intent and I dare say there is a lot more to come. Morgan is worth £500m and was vying with the Americans to buy Liverpool, so he hasn't come here to mess around.
Can't wait for the new season and if we can get a couple of defenders in (like Dunney and St Ledger) reckon we could surprise a few people.
Doyle obviously took his time, considered his options and made his own decision on his future and good luck to him.
Guaranteed Premiership football can only be good for Doyle and Ireland over the next year and he seems content in his decision, so hopefully he can progress and prosper at Wolves
They came in and settled things with Reading so they were the first club I spoke to. I was expecting a long summer but Wolves were in straight away.
‘I spoke to the manager and chief executive over a week ago and came to the training ground to see everything. I’ve been making my mind up over the last couple of weeks and am just really pleased the decision has been made.
‘The facilities here are top class and it’s great to be going back to the Premier League again. I’m sad to be leaving Reading because I had some great years but I’m going
with their blessing, which is nice. This is a fresh start.’
I was hoping he'd move to Everton or Villa.
Anyway, he's in The Premiership, his profile is raised. If he's good enough to spark interest from a bigger team, he will do and move on. Hopefully he is and he does.
Meanwhile, Dunphy is still selling English newspapers.
Despite it being the same point as what was said in this thread?
Anyway, good post. He'll do well at Wolves but I still think he would have been much better off under Hodgson and playing in Europe.
But he would have been guaranteed starter at Fulham too so that can't be used as a reason to favour Wolves.
Whilst Wolves wouldn't have been anywhere near the top of my list of potential destinations for him, I don't think it's as bad a move as first percieved
I think the general consensus is that we're all worries he'll be relegated again. However this season more than any other IMO the promoted teams have a better chance of consolidating the Premiership status. The three newcomers are all obviously expected to be in the mix for the relegation battle as usual but there's a few others that are definately gonna be down there. Hulls season finnished too soon for the relegation that their form deserved (I felt Browns celebrations at the seasons end were a bit too self congratulatory if I'm honest). Portsmouth have never replaced Redknapp adequately and are hemoraging quality players. They're gonna start the season without most if not all of Campbell, Johnson, Defoe, Crouch and Krankjarr. Wigan have lost Bruce as well and their best side from last year is down Heskey, Valencia and Palacios and probbly scharner (I'm away on hols so I've no idea of most of the moves in recent weeks).
My moneys on Wolves to stay up. McCarthy will have learned alot from Sunderland.
Probbly get good odds on all three new sides to stay up too.
http://www.wolves.co.uk/page/News/0,...729551,00.html
undergone surgery on a hernia might not be fully fit for australia
I think McCarthy has come on a lot since his time with us but I don't think he is good enough to manage a decent international side or a top half premiership side. I just think he is very one dimensional tactically and lacks imagination and intelligence in that area of managing. He has some very good attributes, he is great at spotting and developing young talent and his passion is unquestionable, but his tactical flaws would rule him out of a job with any top level club or ambitious International side. I would really like to see him do well in the premiership with Wolves.
I was pretty surprised with Doyle joining Wolves, he is certainly good enough for a top 6 side... let's hope it works out though.
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Players are normally back playing within two weeks after those hernia ops these days so lets hope he makes the opening day of the season and starts banging in the goals for both Wolves and Ireland this coming season.
His work rate is absolutely phenomenal for Ireland so lets hope he has a season similiar to his first premiership season for Reading when Chelsea were taking notice of him and he shoots us to South Africa.
Good enough to get an Irish side in decline to a number of play offs and to qualify for a World Cup and within a penalty shoot out of the last 8.
On what basis is he good enough to play for a top 6 side? Since you think the managers of top 6 sides are wonderful (see above), none obviously agreed with your assessment. Doyle had a good first season in the Premiership, a poor second and, injury aside, didn't perform in the latter half of the Championship campaign. Not the stuff of a player destined for the Top 6. I think he did well to get an offer to play in the Premiership.
I think you underrate Mick, overrate Doyle but hopefully both do well. I know if DOyle doesn't do well, it will all be laid at McCarthy's door
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
But is Nicklas Bendtner a top 4 or even top 6 player? I honestly think Doyle is better. I think Doyle is mid-tier EPL standard myself.
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