QuoteNo you don't now stop acting the maggot.Originally Posted by Soper
I'm entitled to my opinion.I genuinely think they should be in the squad.
No you don't now stop acting the maggot.
If you were to pick a squad based on game time, fitness, form and ability, I would go for something like this a squad.
Shay Given -
Paddy Kenny -
Shane Supple -
Steve Finnan - (RB)
Kevin Foley (RB)
Richard Dunne - (CB)
Paddy McCarthy -(CB)
Paul McShane - (CB)
Sean St.Ledger -(CB)
Derek Geary -(LB)
Ian Harte (LB)
Andy Reid -
Lee Carsley -
Stephen Hunt -
Kevin Kilbane -
Stephen McPhail -
Stephen Ireland -
Jon Douglas -
Aiden McGeady -
Anthony Stokes -
Kevin Doyle -
Shane Long -
Stephen Elliot
Morrison/Lee
I'm just basing this with the opinion that Duff and Keane are injured, John O'Shea isn't playing for United, and the fact we're playing San Marino the inclusion of some of the less experienced players could stand us well. I haven't forgotten any of the eL contingent but they would be out of season for this match which would stand against them I'm sure. I don;t believe it will matter which of Morrison or Lee is picked.
Based on that squad my team would be this:
Given
Finnan
Dunne
McShane
Harte (purely for attacking and set piece purposes)
McGeady
Carsley
Reid
Hunt/Kilbane
Stokes
Doyle
Here they come! It’s the charge of the “Thanks” Brigade!
how can you say JOS isnt playing for united when he's played in nearly every game this season? i'd have him in there in front of douglas who it would appear is not helping leeds much. harte has yet to play for levante this season and could be seen as a liability in the open spaces of croker so maybe geary should be given his international bow in a match where we will not be relying on harteys dead ball expertise. the captain should be in the squad to welcome the newcomers! kenny, foley and reid are injured at the moment so bit unfair to exclude duff and keane on the same criterion.
team; 433
Given; Finnan, McShane, Dunne, Geary; Carsley, O'Shea, Reid; Doyle, Keane, McGeady. Playing subs; Hunt,Stokes,Long
Stephen Quinn scored again today. If he keeps going at this rate, surely he's in with a shout?
'And Crouch must score'
Im entrigued that most people claim to be picking squads on recent club form and dont include David Connolly. He has been arguably Sunderlands best player this season and has got much praise from Keane. I think that he has been unlucky in the abuse that he has faced in the future. In the Irish matches where he was poor he was beside Robbie Keane and yet not a word of abuse was sent the way of the golden kid Keane, Connolly received it all
Oh I knew I'd have to explain myself. I thought Robbie Keane and Duff were mid-long term injury worries. I don't believe Paddy Kenny, Kevin Foley, or Andy Reid (who played at the weekend) were anything more than a week or so to be out injured, thus making them a different kettle of fish to Duff and Keane.
As for John O'Shea, I don't believe he is starting week in week out for Man Ure, nor do I believe that when he does his form is decent. In fact I can say I've never seen him play well for Ireland and does not merit a place in the team. A personal thing.
As for Geary over Harte, I wouldn't be disappointed. I don't like Harte much. Are there any local Left-fulls we could select? Danny Murphy is a left full isn't he, but he's gone to Motherwell, so if I included him I'd probably be slated.
Here they come! It’s the charge of the “Thanks” Brigade!
Surely you like getting responses to your posts
injuries are always a minefield, we could do with a thread to keep us all updatedby the way, robbie came on for spurs yesterday and looked lively..should be rearing to go come san marinio
can we expect any major surprises in the squad given that stan and his men have had a few months to scour the lands, glen whelan... though trying to second guess stan is harder than stale bread
Doyle ruled out with a hamstring injury that he picked up against everton. Stephen Reid also out with a back injury. Accordin 2 physioroom.com Duff wil be back for the game.
No need to rush Duff back for a game like this...its the ideal situation to give Steve Hunt his debut...
"Well I think they'll be a little disappointed with that" - Matt Holland on TV3 after 5-2 drubbing by Cyprus
My starting eleven for San Marino:
Given,
Finnan, Dunne, McShane, JOSH
McGeady, A. Reid, Carsley, Kilbane
Keane, Morrison.
Is this the team you want or the one you expect?
I see no benefit in playing Morrison against SM. Would try Stokes as a good chance to get his first goal. Would also give Quinn (S) and Hunt a chance ahead of Kilbane and Reid.
i hope to god this isnt the team..though it could well be. get stokes and hunt in there in place of kilbane and morrison, the only reason to play morrison would be to give him the game that he isnt getting at palace for a bit of practice before wales,slovakia when doyle will be back anyway. LB is the only other area of debate, squad options are JOS, geary, harte(any word on fitness?), kilbane, kevin foley, finnan...with geary getting my tentative vote, or of course we could just go with three at the back, should be enough against the sammarinese
That's the team I want to play. If Duff and Doyle are available, I'd replace Kilbane and Morrison for them.
The San Marino match is a competitive game and should be treated as such. With the exception of Keane, Morrison's goals per game ratio is better than anyone else's in the squad, and its goals with want against San Marino. I really can't belief that Stephen Quinn's name is being mentioned for the national squad after a few minutes first-team action for Sheffield United. Similarly I don't see the point of giving Hunt a run-out, who is an average player IMO, ahead of a player like Kilbane who has given his all for us on numerous occasions. Stokes' time will come but I rather see Morrison, Elliott or Lee get a competitive game before him.
Players have egos like the rest of us and I don't think you can under-estimate the impact replacing an established senior international with a pup that hasn't yet done anything at club level.
Ifk, Stephen Quinn. You can look at it as a few minutes of Premiership action, or look at it the way it is, goals assists, man of the matches and lots and lots of praise, he's lighting up that Sheffield United Team, and getting them points. If your good enough, you're old enough. SM is ideal for Stokes, if he doesn't play now, he won't be risked for absolutely ages, can guarantee that with Stan. And Stephen Hunt deserves to start more than most of those players, call if average if you want but he's got falir and will give it socks, you'll be hard pushed to find players who genuinely work harder than him.
The San Marino match is a competitive game
I cant believe kilbane was mentioned in a sentence with 'average player' and it wasnt him being referred toSimilarly I don't see the point of giving Hunt a run-out, who is an average player IMO, ahead of a player like Kilbane who has given his all for us on numerous occasions.i think hunt is similar to kilbane fair enough but as mentioned he has a wee bit more flair and is faster and more competitive, i'd say he'd put the SM players under a lot of pressure, robbing them of possession high up the pitch. also, would it not be discouraging to the ego's of more inexperienced players who have good club form to deny them an opportunity, especially against SM?
I haven't forgotten Liechtenstein, have you Kingdom Hoop. And yes I totally agree with you in saying that Hunt is no better than Kilbane, so why drop Kilbane?
With have an U21 team as well - just for the little egos.
no, liechenstein is where i keep my millions, tax freeseriously though, if there is going to be a disaster starting kilbane will not avert it
hunt is 25ish, and stokes will be in the senior squad
i tried to say hunt could be better than kilbane v SM given his better skill, pace and is very very competitive, a great put 'em under pressure player
Well if said player was any kind of decent professional and was proud of playing for his country then I would hope the impact would be positive...i.e work harder and try to get your place back
If the established player deserves to be dropped for the "pup" he should be dropped. Instead you are talking about massaging the egos of the established players who have done absolutely nothing for us in recent times...
Things need to be shook up and "established players" like Keane, Duff, Kilbane, O'Shea, Finnan, Morrisson etc need to look over their shoulders and realise that their places are not set in stone and that if they keep on performing shoddily for the national team they should be dropped for up-and-coming players willing to give their all...
Last edited by Dr. Ogba; 16/01/2007 at 1:04 PM.
"Well I think they'll be a little disappointed with that" - Matt Holland on TV3 after 5-2 drubbing by Cyprus
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