Olly Byrne on Liveline at 1.45 today

**Mr A** · 09/01/2007, 1:41 PM

I think to some degree Ollie has a point about not being willing to just hand over the running of the club to just anyone. It may well be that he was dead right not to hand over control to the investor- who are pretty much just in there for gain from Tolka Park without guarantees about their plans for Shelbourne and plans for how they would run the club.

In the absence of anyone else coming in it probably falls to a fans group to set up some sort of co-op, trust or whatever to take over the club. Then again it may well be that Ollie would refuse to hand over to such a group if he saw them as not well enough organized or likely to reduce Shelbourne to a much lower status and will hold out for a big money investor to come in.

The thing is that time is seriously against Shels. They have no manager, only 8 players who they can't pay and things seem to be going from bad to worse.

**monkey magic** · 09/01/2007, 1:44 PM

the guy claims to be the head of some irish football suporters organisation or something which claims to have 70 000 odd members, in other words a complete **** spouter

**finnpark** · 09/01/2007, 1:48 PM

Its time for the FAI to set in, take their CL and Setanta places away and relegate them off to the Leinster Senoir League where a Chairman like Ollie Byrne belongs.

**BohsPartisan** · 09/01/2007, 1:49 PM

Originally Posted by Galway Harps

I think to some degree Ollie has a point about not being willing to just hand over the running of the club to just anyone.

You might have a point if it was not Ollie. I mean he is as "just anyone" as you can get.

**wws** · 09/01/2007, 2:00 PM

Originally Posted by Galway Harps

I think to some degree Ollie has a point about not being willing to just hand over the running of the club to just anyone. It may well be that he was dead right not to hand over control to the investor- who are pretty much just in there for gain from Tolka Park without guarantees about their plans for Shelbourne and plans for how they would run the club.

In the absence of anyone else coming in it probably falls to a fans group to set up some sort of co-op, trust or whatever to take over the club. Then again it may well be that Ollie would refuse to hand over to such a group if he saw them as not well enough organized or likely to reduce Shelbourne to a much lower status and will hold out for a big money investor to come in.

The thing is that time is seriously against Shels. They have no manager, only 8 players who they can't pay and things seem to be going from bad to worse.

just a small point but there is no requirement to have players on the books until the new season - less than ideal but certainly the old way things where done (and a very realistic approcah given LoI revenues.

**drummerboy** · 09/01/2007, 2:08 PM

Originally Posted by finnpark

Its time for the FAI to set in, take their CL and Setanta places away and relegate them off to the Leinster Senoir League where a Chairman like Ollie Byrne belongs.

Your comments have done the Leinster Senior League a major disservice.

**Billy Lord** · 09/01/2007, 2:22 PM

Sheridan: RTE were told beforehand that Shamrock Rovers would not be wringing EL dirty linen on national radio and that's why there was so little to say. It was an utterly pointless exercise.
You really ought to seek therapy, though. Such bitterness in one so young cannot be healthy.

**dcfcsteve** · 09/01/2007, 2:37 PM

Originally Posted by Galway Harps

I think to some degree Ollie has a point about not being willing to just hand over the running of the club to just anyone.

it may well be that Ollie would refuse to hand over to such a group if he saw them as not well enough organized or likely to reduce Shelbourne to a much lower status and will hold out for a big money investor to come in.

Too right. Why hand control over the club to an untried and untested set of people, and take the risk of them running the club into the ground, when he can retain control of Shels and make damn sure of their demise for himself... !

**jebus** · 09/01/2007, 2:42 PM

What with Ollie Byrne's increasing lunacy, the Dundalk/Galway scandal, Limerick's esteemed chairman telling all and sundry that he's taking the FAI to court, and just the downright half assed approach that seems to be given to the EL by our new bosses in Merrion Square it doesn't look like the FAI Premiership is going to get off to a great start now does it? How we're expected to attract new fans to a product that is being viewed national as a running joke is beyond me

**Billy Lord** · 09/01/2007, 2:51 PM

Originally Posted by jebus

What with Ollie Byrne's increasing lunacy, the Dundalk/Galway scandal, Limerick's esteemed chairman telling all and sundry that he's taking the FAI to court, and just the downright half assed approach that seems to be given to the EL by our new bosses in Merrion Square it doesn't look like the FAI Premiership is going to get off to a great start now does it? How we're expected to attract new fans to a product that is being viewed national as a running joke is beyond me

It's not 'viewed' as a running joke, it 'is' a running joke.

**Jerry The Saint** · 09/01/2007, 3:40 PM

Originally Posted by jebus

What with Ollie Byrne's increasing lunacy, the Dundalk/Galway scandal, Limerick's esteemed chairman telling all and sundry that he's taking the FAI to court, and just the downright half assed approach that seems to be given to the EL by our new bosses in Merrion Square it doesn't look like the FAI Premiership is going to get off to a great start now does it?

But-but-but Mr. Delaney said that everything was all right now. And it must be true because the other nice people in the FAI gave him a 6-year contract because he's so good at his job

Well, now I don't know what to believe.

**BohsPartisan** · 09/01/2007, 3:40 PM

Originally Posted by jebus

How we're expected to attract new fans to a product that is being viewed national as a running joke is beyond me

Market it as Ireland's most compelling Soap Opera.

**pete** · 09/01/2007, 5:00 PM

Didn't hear this on the radio but going by the comments here this sounded like disasterous PR for thew league. The sooner clubs sign up to the participation agreement the better so can stop them going to the courts & also making fools of everyone on the National media.

Alan Hunter is some fool who was part of some irish supporters travel group (all sports) in the 70s. I think he claims to have 70,000 members but no one is able to find them. I'd be surprised if he is actually a member of his own group. RTE know he is a nutcase but continue to use him - fairly pathetic for organisation with public service charter.

**wws** · 09/01/2007, 5:19 PM

Originally Posted by Hooperatzi

Sheridan doesnt like Hunter.

Sheridan doesnt like Rovers.

Therefore Hunter is Rovers.

Technically thats autism Sheridan.

You are hanging around here like a bad smell. Your 'club' is no longer in the EL. Why are you still on here posting every day?

he used the words 'rent-a-sham' (the sham in this case being an obvious reference to Hunter) and you automatically assumed it was a reference to your own club - without any prompting from Sheridan.

.....and he's got problems??

**Sheridan** · 09/01/2007, 5:21 PM

Jesus, I actually think they're getting thicker. I'm going to clean up offering rudimentary literacy lessons to bewildered Shams. Here's a sneak preview for you, Hooperatzi.

CLAUSE 1
Hunter is an utter buffoon.
END OF CLAUSE 1

BEGINNING OF CLAUSE 2 (A DIFFERENT CLAUSE)
Fair play to Duffy for cutting off rent-a-sham before he could unleash his PR spiel.
END OF CLAUSE 2

I'm posting here for your benefit, not my own, incidentally.

Byrne: If you don't have anything to say, don't say anything. It didn't deter you from spouting sh1t about Dublin City on Newstalk a few months back, but I guess the Tolka issue complicates things. There's nothing less edifying than expediency masquerading as principle.

**WeAreRovers** · 09/01/2007, 5:58 PM

Originally Posted by Sheridan

Byrne: If you don't have anything to say, don't say anything. It didn't deter you from spouting sh1t about Dublin City on Newstalk a few months back, but I guess the Tolka issue complicates things. There's nothing less edifying than expediency masquerading as principle.

I think your obsession with the Press Officer of the Year is worse than your sad obsession with Rovers. Imagine a 'hoolocrat' being lauded by the powers-that-be! No wonder your club bowed out with such good grace. Shame you can't do the same.

KOH

**Jack_2001** · 09/01/2007, 10:44 PM

Originally Posted by Peadar

Floating concrete? Interesting concept!

Do RT� make their radio shows available in a podcast?

http://www.rte.ie/radio1/liveline/

and click Tuesday

**Billy Lord** · 09/01/2007, 10:45 PM

In fairness to Sheridan (there, I've said it), he's right about some of us jumping down his neck this time around, and I have no hesitation in apologising for making assumptions about his previous post. Sorry. I was wrong. Unlike Sheridan, I'm only human; and sometimes I make mistakes, say the wrong thing, or jump to conclusions.
I guess Shez's Kevin Myers-like smugness and condescending attitude gets up our noses more than we're willing to admit. At least we have a football club to support, so it's not all bad.
I hope Shels overcome their problems, and the Shels' fans who know me also know that I've a lot of time for their club and that there's a great historical link between the Hoops and the Reds. It's a very real and personal tragedy that Ollie's made such a hames of something that's clearly the love of his life.
But we saved Rovers and Dublin City died an ignominious death - and that's the real rub, I reckon, with the Alanis Morissette of the internet.

**NY Hoop** · 10/01/2007, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by Billy Lord

In fairness to Sheridan (there, I've said it), he's right about some of us jumping down his neck this time around, and I have no hesitation in apologising for making assumptions about his previous post. Sorry. I was wrong. Unlike Sheridan, I'm only human; and sometimes I make mistakes, say the wrong thing, or jump to conclusions.
I guess Shez's Kevin Myers-like smugness and condescending attitude gets up our noses more than we're willing to admit. At least we have a football club to support, so it's not all bad.
I hope Shels overcome their problems, and the Shels' fans who know me also know that I've a lot of time for their club and that there's a great historical link between the Hoops and the Reds. It's a very real and personal tragedy that Ollie's made such a hames of something that's clearly the love of his life.
But we saved Rovers and Dublin City died an ignominious death - and that's the real rub, I reckon, with the Alanis Morissette of the internet.

Well said. Sheridan like Seery and CHF are a waste of time. For an example of his obsession look at his signature

KOH