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    Quote Originally Posted by razor View Post
    , fuelled mainly by the Ocaliban*, caused him to believe the hype.

    *People who refer to him as the King when in fact he's not fit to lace Dave Barrys boots
    Thats my post of the month!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rebs23 View Post
    Thats my post of the month!
    And its true ..... to this day his attitude is something that should be emulated. A real professional in a period where our club was very much amateur. Him and those like him defined professionalism where some players these days can only claim its one of their characteristics.

    This situation exactly sums it up.
    The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.

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    Thanks for the memories George, hopefully it can be sorted for good. As George said himself...

    ...I hopes ye wins like...
    Oh no not them again

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete View Post
    Thats the Pat Devlin school of football economics... A bit for the player, bit for the club & a bit for myself...
    And the problem with that is.....?
    Honest! I am not a secret Tim nor a closet Sham - I really am a Seagull.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superhoops View Post
    And the problem with that is.....?
    The problem? its ethical, he is compromised by being in the position he is in.
    The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A face View Post
    The problem? its ethical, he is compromised by being in the position he is in.
    Face, you have Devlin on the brain!!!!! Forget Devlin.

    When a player is transferred, what is wrong with the selling club, the player and his agent/advisor all benefitting?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Superhoops View Post
    When a player is transferred, what is wrong with the selling club, the player and his agent/advisor all benefitting?
    The problem is that it presents a conflict of interests if the agent/advisor is also his manager.

    The manager's job is to get the best deal for the club. The agent/advisor aims to get a slice of the cake for himself, which could be to the disadvantage of the club. This is why it is against FIFA rules for a manager to also act as an agent/advisor. A rule which Ireland's B manager is breaking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Student Mullet View Post
    The problem is that it presents a conflict of interests if the agent/advisor is also his manager.

    The manager's job is to get the best deal for the club. The agent/advisor aims to get a slice of the cake for himself, which could be to the disadvantage of the club. This is why it is against FIFA rules for a manager to also act as an agent/advisor. A rule which Ireland's B manager is breaking.
    Why has he not been taken to task by FIFA, UEFA, or the club he has disadvantaged if he is breaking these FIFA rules (which can only be Bray!).
    Honest! I am not a secret Tim nor a closet Sham - I really am a Seagull.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superhoops View Post
    Why has he not been taken to task by FIFA, UEFA, or the club he has disadvantaged if he is breaking these FIFA rules (which can only be Bray!).
    Would Alex Ferguson be allowed to be Frank Lampards agent?

    Devlin was Jason Byrnes agent while he was manager of Bray.

    In Devlins case the FAI have blinkers on & do care. Theres been many instances where the FAI have failed to follow FIFA rules & guidelines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete View Post
    Would Alex Ferguson be allowed to be Frank Lampards agent?

    Devlin was Jason Byrnes agent while he was manager of Bray.

    In Devlins case the FAI have blinkers on & do care. Theres been many instances where the FAI have failed to follow FIFA rules & guidelines.
    Devlin has never been an agent. He is not and never has been licenced as such - fact.

    Did it ever occur to you that in Jason Byrne's case and in Eamon Zayeed's case that Devlin was acting in Bray's best financial interests. Make no mistake about it, Zayeed's loan and transfer were great business for Bray, (much better than Kevin Doyle's transfer from Cork). If Devlin did make a few quid out of it for himself, so what. Bray's financial interests were not compromised.

    Even if the FAI have failed to follow FIFA rules and guidelines, why have not FIFA, as the governing body, enforced their own rules if, as you allege, there is such clear breaches of their rules?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Superhoops View Post
    Devlin has never been an agent. He is not and never has been licenced as such - fact.
    Glad you acknowledge that at last.

    Quote Originally Posted by Superhoops View Post
    Did it ever occur to you that in Jason Byrne's case and in Eamon Zayeed's case that Devlin was acting in Bray's best financial interests. Make no mistake about it, Zayeed's loan and transfer were great business for Bray, (much better than Kevin Doyle's transfer from Cork). If Devlin did make a few quid out of it for himself, so what. Bray's financial interests were not compromised.
    So you saying its ok that Devlin represented Byrne while he also managed a "rival" (i.e. compete in same league) ? blinkered or what...

    Quote Originally Posted by Superhoops View Post
    Even if the FAI have failed to follow FIFA rules and guidelines, why have not FIFA, as the governing body, enforced their own rules if, as you allege, there is such clear breaches of their rules?
    I doubt FIFA have noticed the eL exists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete View Post
    Glad you acknowledge that at last..
    Does not need me to acknowledge it. It is a well known fact. The identity of all FIFA Registered football agents is on public record.

    Quote Originally Posted by pete View Post
    So you saying its ok that Devlin represented Byrne while he also managed a "rival" (i.e. compete in same league) ? blinkered or what...
    I am saying that Devlin acted in Bray's best financial interests, evidenced by the fact that Bray will further benefit from any sell-on of Jason Byrne. If he was able to get a good deal for Byrne as part of the deal, then Byrne has benefitted. If Devlin earned out of it, he was either paid by Bray, by Byrne or by Shels. Haven't heard any of them squealing that they were had over or that Devlin was not acting in Bray's best interests.

    There are times when to ensure a club's financial stability, it is in the best interests of the club to sell one or more of its best players, a situation that occurs not only in the EL. That may be seen as lack of ambition, but what is more important, buying success and getting into hugh debt or even insolvency or running your club within sensible financial limits. Bray have survived, Dublin City didn't, Shels are in deep sh*t, Cork are not in great financial shape and would have no hesitation in selling if the price is right or if the bank demands them to. As the recent club licencing process proved, Bray are considered to be one of the better run clubs. Devlin's dealings had a lot to do with that.

    Quote Originally Posted by pete View Post
    I doubt FIFA have noticed the eL exists.
    Stupid comment
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    Quote Originally Posted by Student Mullet View Post
    The problem is that it presents a conflict of interests if the agent/advisor is also his manager.

    The manager's job is to get the best deal for the club. The agent/advisor aims to get a slice of the cake for himself, which could be to the disadvantage of the club. This is why it is against FIFA rules for a manager to also act as an agent/advisor. A rule which Ireland's B manager is breaking.
    But as a fan, if this is all you have ever known, then its hard to see the problem, bless.
    The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.

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    Lads, this is very boring at this stage, keeps poping up time and time again and the same thing is repeated over and over. Get over it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrayUnknowns View Post
    Lads, this is very boring at this stage, keeps poping up time and time again and the same thing is repeated over and over. Get over it!
    Agree
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    Selling O'Callaghan for £70,000 or euros, whatever is a pretty good deal for both sides.

    Ipswich get a good player, IF he gets his attitude right. Personally I think Jim Magilton is a far sterner manager then Rico.

    And Cork get rid of this gob****e for, I'm guessing, a tidy profit. He's a disease to our league. Thankfully his attitude hasn't passed on to other top players in our league.
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    Quote Originally Posted by superfrank View Post
    He's a disease to our league.
    Yeah he has some of the Bray team tormented with ineptitude rendering them practically helpless, they are still trying to recover from it. You'd want to contact this crowd to see if there is a cure !!

    There have been some very severe cases of it in the past where guys were left like drooling vegetables, completely incapacitated. Shocking waste of life y’know.
    The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.

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    Typical Corkie response.
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    Yo te quiero, mi querida. Sin tus besos, yo soy nada.

    Abri o portão de ouro, da maquina do tempo.

    Mi mamá me hizo guapo, listo y antimadridista.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superfrank View Post
    Typical Corkie response.
    I know !!
    The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.

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