Kevin Doyle and Pat Dolan

[Dodge]

Anyone see the interview with Kevin Doyle on sky sports news? Your man said "You don't have am agent, did that make things easier when dealing with the club?"

Doyle replied "I don't have an agent but my old manager looks after me. He's not an official agent but he advises and deals with the contracts and stuff. He's always looked after me"

What else does an agent do aart from that?

We (first Pats fans, then Cork fans) already knew this but I couldn't belive Doyle was so brazen about it. Doyle will earn more in a month with his new payrise than Cork got for his transfer...

[Celdrog]

Anyone see the interview with Kevin Doyle on sky sports news? Your man said "You don't have am agent, did that make things easier when dealing with the club?"
Doyle replied "I don't have an agent but my old manager looks after me. He's not an official agent but he advises and deals with the contracts and stuff. He's always looked after me"
What else does an agent do aart from that?

We (first Pats fans, then Cork fans) already knew this but I couldn't belive Doyle was so brazen about it. Doyle will earn more in a month with his new payrise than Cork got for his transfer...

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Takes 10%.

[Dodge]

SO how much does an advisor get then?

[LukeO]

A few slimfast shakes, explains a lot really.

[razor]

We (first Pats fans, then Cork fans) already knew this but I couldn't belive Doyle was so brazen about it. Doyle will earn more in a month with his new payrise than Cork got for his transfer...

I presume Pat won't have any knowledge of the actual contract or any clauses that may exist should Doyler move on.
Sure Pat was probably over visiting the brother, handy.
Sickens me, it truly does.

[micls]

God I hate Pat Dolan.....thoguh youll probably have some of our fans on saying how he had othing to do with it....or was only doing it for Doyler.

Wait till Wexford Youth gets up and going........Reading are drooling at the thought of it

[Colm]

God I hate Pat Dolan.

Why do you hate him?
Have you ever met him? Do you know him personally? I do and he's a lovely chap, a complete gentleman. And its worth noting that no other man has ever even come close to doing as much good for Cork City as Pat did, thats an undeniable fact despite what you and some other ''fans'' say.

[pete]

What else does an agent do aart from that?

Nothing. An adviser is an unlicenced agent & therefore has to be illegal. I cannot see that have to be paid to be an agent. Dolan is two faced & a hypocrite. Notice how he doesn't go on this anti-english football & pro eL rants anymore? I think he has just given into the jure of money.

[Burnsie]

Nothing. An adviser is an unlicenced agent & therefore has to be illegal.

ah here. what about michael kennedy, who acts for dave o'leary, roy keane, shay given, etc? do you really know anything about what "agents" do, or indeed what dolan actually had to do with doyle's negotiations?

Notice how he doesn't go on this anti-english football & pro eL rants anymore?

that's a lie. he gave a very robust defence of eircom league football just last week on the setanta sports review, which he featured on alongside felix healy. this to my knowledge was his most recent media appearance.

[Dodge]

Why do you hate him?
Have you ever met him? Do you know him personally? I do and he's a lovely chap, a complete gentleman. And its worth noting that no other man has ever even come close to doing as much good for Cork City as Pat did, thats an undeniable fact despite what you and some other ''fans'' say.

I met him. I know him personally. He's a slimy two faced **** who'd sell his kidney if it got him more power. He doesn't really talk to me anymore.

Good on setanta though and I'm glad he's losing weight

[pete]

ah here. what about michael kennedy, who acts for dave o'leary, roy keane, shay given, etc? do you really know anything about what "agents" do, or indeed what dolan actually had to do with doyle's negotiations?

Kennedy is a solicitor by trade so he deals with contracts for some players managers. As mentioned above Doyle said Dolan deasl with his contracts negotiations.

In order to become an official football agent, you have to pass an exam set by FIFA and your national football association. Dolan is not registered according to the FIFA site.

[A face]

Why do you hate him?

Because he is a complete hypocrite

Have you ever met him?

Yes

Do you know him personally?

Yes

I do and he's a lovely chap, a complete gentleman.

Your opinion, you're entitled to it. ("Lovely club")

And its worth noting that no other man has ever even come close to doing as much good for Cork City as Pat did, thats an undeniable fact despite what you and some other ''fans'' say.

That is a ridiculous unfounded statement to make and something that a large section of Cork City support and the general public in Cork would dispute. Infact alot of people would share the opinion that he undid any good he ever did for City with his behaviour and actions.

He was fired as manager of Cork City because he was wreckless and was close to doing irreparable damage to the club. That is two eircom League clubs now who have got away with it by the skin of their teeth, although in Cork Citys case i think Lennox was more timely in getting rid of him. Maybe Lennox had learnt from St. Pats mistakes, maybe he was just wise to Dolans destructiveness, who knows.

One thing for sure though, there will come a time where a club will get caught. Pat Dolan could actually be compared to ‘pyramid selling’, it seems like a good idea at the time. And its damn hard to face the facts and cut your loses, but you just know the longer you stay in, the more damaging it will be in the long run. Sooner or later you will have to draw the line and hope that you can cut your loses and move on.

[kdjaC]

One thing for sure though, there will come a time where a club will get caught. Pat Dolan could actually be compared to ‘pyramid selling’, it seems like a good idea at the time. And its damn hard to face the facts and cut your loses, but you just know the longer you stay in, the more damaging it will be in the long run. Sooner or later you will have to draw the line and hope that you can cut your loses and move on.

Jesus your a bitter lot down in Cork, not Dolans fault Lennox wasnt managing the finances better after all Dolan was team manager as stated by Lennox numerous times, he wanted what was best for the team lennox couldnt provide it (training ground?). But hey thats what your players said about it so obviously untrue.

Facts: Dolan won leagues with pats, created the best Cork side ever, saved waterford from relegation. Dolan wanted to push teams to the next level clubs were not ready off the pitch for that. But lets overlook that when looking for a scapegoat for our clubs misfortunes. I dont blame Dolan for what happened Pats in 02 there are others who claim that blame, all Dolan did was let them buy shares

kdjac

[Dodge]

Facts: Dolan won leagues with pats, created the best Cork side ever, saved waterford from relegation. Dolan wanted to push teams to the next level clubs were not ready off the pitch for that. But lets overlook that when looking for a scapegoat for our clubs misfortunes. I dont blame Dolan for what happened Pats in 02 there are others who claim that blame, all Dolan did was let them buy shares

First of all Dolan signed neither of John O'Flynn or George O'Callaghan so he inherited the best Cork side ever.

Secondly he is 80% at fault for Pats financial problems. None of which relate to the registration season.

[A face]

Jesus your a bitter lot down in Cork, not Dolans fault Lennox wasnt managing the finances better after all Dolan was team manager as stated by Lennox numerous times, he wanted what was best for the team lennox couldnt provide it (training ground?). But hey thats what your players said about it so obviously untrue.

Facts: Dolan won leagues with pats, created the best Cork side ever, saved waterford from relegation. Dolan wanted to push teams to the next level clubs were not ready off the pitch for that. But lets overlook that when looking for a scapegoat for our clubs misfortunes. I dont blame Dolan for what happened Pats in 02 there are others who claim that blame, all Dolan did was let them buy shares

kdjac

I know you might be reacting to me posting there, but i think you are way off the mark. I'd be more interested in hearing what you ACTUALLY have to say rather than your reaction to other posts

[Postman]

I know you might be reacting to me posting there, but i think you are way off the mark. I'd be more interested in hearing what you ACTUALLY have to say rather than your reaction to other posts

What exactly did Dolan do down at Cork that was so unnforgiveable? I know about him setting Doyle buy out clause and then making Reading aware of it but surely Lennox was aware of this buy out clause so where the major probelm? Apart from the whole Doyle thing what exactly did Dolan do wrong at Cork?

[lofty9]

What exactly did Dolan do down at Cork that was so unnforgiveable? I know about him setting Doyle buy out clause and then making Reading aware of it but surely Lennox was aware of this buy out clause so where the major probelm? Apart from the whole Doyle thing what exactly did Dolan do wrong at Cork?

Something I know nothing about, but he was sacked by Cork when the team had just finished 2nd in the league and they had went on a great unbeaten run at the end of that season. Obviously, there must have been issues behind the scenes that led to his sacking. What I do know of him he likes his Chairmen to spend big and provide him with a big budget to work with. Him and Ollie would have been well suited. He left Pats in a bit of a state when he left and it just seems they are beginning to recover from his time. I doubt he'll get another job in Ireland due to these demands, unless Waterford need to pay a bonus for his services again.

The man is pure cringe material too. Every time one of his teams played Derry - he was coming out in the local press saying how much he loved Derry City and the fans. Probably said this to every town and City he visisted throughout the years. But what topped it off was when he started to CRY after Waterford had beaten Derry at the Brandywell, apologising to Derry fans. The man is a Patrionising Prat and a fraud!

[GavinZac]

Why do you hate him?
Have you ever met him? Do you know him personally? I do and he's a lovely chap, a complete gentleman. And its worth noting that no other man has ever even come close to doing as much good for Cork City as Pat did, thats an undeniable fact despite what you and some other ''fans'' say.

seriously, its like you're in a cult or something.

[A face]

What exactly did Dolan do down at Cork that was so unnforgiveable? I know about him setting Doyle buy out clause and then making Reading aware of it but surely Lennox was aware of this buy out clause so where the major probelm? Apart from the whole Doyle thing what exactly did Dolan do wrong at Cork?

Dolan was employed as a manager, he was operating outside his job spec shall we say .... which is all well and good if it benefits the club. When it doesn't it poses a problem for the club. eL clubs have enough to contend with without having to curtail the managers actions.

But what topped it off was when he started to CRY after Waterford had beaten Derry at the Brandywell, apologising to Derry fans. The man is a Patrionising Prat and a fraud!

Hes a very emotional guy is Pat, he cried several times after cup defeats etc. in Cork, oh the drama of it all. I blame the PR company he hired, they must have been cutting the wrong onions

seriously, its like you're in a cult or something.

Its funny cos its true !!

[rebs23]

Why do you hate him?
Have you ever met him? Do you know him personally? I do and he's a lovely chap, a complete gentleman. And its worth noting that no other man has ever even come close to doing as much good for Cork City as Pat did, thats an undeniable fact despite what you and some other ''fans'' say.

Take the quotation marks away there when you refer to "fans" such as myself who never did buy into the whole Dolan myth.
Does it make you a better fan because this love of yours for Dolan is still going strong? Strange logic there. As for "no man has ever done so much for Cork City", words just fail me.