Don't want to be too much of a smart arse as the bloke is obviously finding the media part of the job a bit daunting at the minute - but I thought this was almost Spinal Tapesque in its dead pan/ oblivious to irony delivery.
Cahill From your long international playing career, can you name any of the really great moments at Lansdowne?
Stan All of them
First to admit that too much of a talker is not a good thing either - but found the above tragically funny.
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Since I don't live in Ireland anymore... do Apres Match do a good impression of Stan? There's plenty of material for them.
"A silent mouth is sweet to hear"
Was Staunton asked by Cahill the following. Had he seen Stokes play for Falkirk in Scotland?
I'm not sure there really are that many more players capable of breaking through to the senior team now versus 10 years ago - and really making an impact. Time will tell.
Kennedy, Connolly, O'Neill, Harte, Carr, Kilbane, Dunne, Keane, Duff, McPhail all spring to mind as players who broke into the senior team about 10 years ago. How many of those will be 'legends' as it were? Duff & Keane certainly. Dunne has it all to do.
Of the list mentioned by an earlier poster:
Stokes, Clarke, Long, Garvan, Mc Geady, O'Dea, Foley, Keogh, Ireland, St Ledger, S Quinn, McCann, Supple and J O'Brien - can add McShane
It's very arguable if Clarke, Keogh, St ledger, S Quinn, Chris McCann, Long, Ireland will make the Irish first team and go on to become top class players.
McGeady, Foley, J O'Brien and Supple I feel will make it. O'Dea looks promising as does Stokes - the question is how good will they become.
Players have a tendency to plateau it seems or even move backwards ala JOSH, Jason Gavin, Alan Quinn, McPhail, Connolly, Kennedy etc and or get injured like Richard Sadlier, Keith O'Neill. And all those others that were 'promising' Barrett, Butler, James O'Connor etc.
Center midfield and center back is our real concern at the moment - so really we're looking at McShane, O'Dea, Garvan and O'Brien to step it up in the next 12 months, it doesn't look quite so hot when you look at it like that does it?
I've said it from day one that Stan should be sent on PR as well as assertiveness course.
Its easy to say Keane & Duff were noticed when they were 17 as they went on to full internationals. I'd be more impressed if could name 5-10 players who looked talented in 1995 but did not progress to anything.
I don't agree. Bar major injuries or no progression at all (unlikely) I can't see the likes of Garvan, Stokes and Clarke not being Irish internationals. In fact I see Garvan as a better prospect than all those you mentioned (with the possible exception of J O'Brien). As for who will be a legend - no one can predict that but there are as mentioned a lot more talented young players about than in the recent past.Originally Posted by Qwerty
All you have to do is look to ten years ago to this day and see that one of our most exciting young prospects was a reserve team player for Watford in the old third division called David Connolly. He was even getting a regular game in the International team at the time. That in itself should show we didn't have anywhere near the same amount of talent 10 years ago. Deluded people just hyped up the best of a bad bunch. As for the other players wou mentioned Kilbane, Keane or McPhail weren't even on the horizon in 96/97, Kennedy was also a reserve team player, Dunne and Duff had just a handful of substitute appearances and Harte was sh*t. Only O'Neill could be considered at that time anything like a real prospect. It just doesn't compare to today. The majority of the players I mentioned are regular starters for their clubs and this is the difference.
Last edited by youngirish; 05/01/2007 at 9:56 AM.
It was hard to keep awake, 2 drones in stereo. Cahill is not a good interviewer, he's okay for chit chat.
Stan said something about having scouts all over the land watching players on his behalf.
Said something about that there are also negatives about pushing players too soon into the first 11 (maybe in relation to McShane)
He repeated the line about getting advice to go with his most experienced back 4 against Cyprus.
On the young players he has already made it clear about bringing them into the set up, it's just he didn't know how to do it. I think he's learnt a bit about that, the McShane debut and recalling Kelly for LB was some evidence.
Overall the press should treat Stan like they treated McGrath, keep their distance. Confine contact to good luck Stan, well done Stan or hard luck Stan. The confidence level in Stan drops a few notches everytime he opens his mouth to answer a question or venture into the world of idea articulation.
as has been said before he desperately needs training on how to handle the media. he lacks charisma in his own personality but if he got a bit of help possibly (/hopefully) he might interview better.
jack and mick had their own way of dealing with the media and if it means that he only talked to certain journalists then so be it - at the moment the gift grub skits sound like the real thing and his own interviesws like the jokes!
Following on from a related thread.
Fear not - Noely's Guitar has found the answer. Check the link that he posted up below.
Cometh the hour, Cometh the Stan.
http://www.stevestanton.com/index2.html
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