Daily Mail January 3rd

**thedoyler** · 05/01/2007, 1:15 AM

That makes sense to me, you're right why would pats get the european spot ahead of others? I can only see it through being runners up in the cup is that why?

**Dodge** · 05/01/2007, 2:35 AM

Originally Posted by YankExile

I'm sorry, I think you lost me. Pats are 7th in the 2006 standings; why wouldn't the slot go to clubs above them? If Derry goes into the CL, then wouldn't this kick Cork into the UEFA Cup, and Sligo (being next in points after CCFC) into Intertoto action to replace Cork? (I'm kind of a soccer newb here, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.)

As it stand Derry won their european place by winning the FAI Cup, not their second place finish.

Originally Posted by thedoyler

That makes sense to me, you're right why would pats get the european spot ahead of others? I can only see it through being runners up in the cup is that why?

If they were to be "promoted" to the Champions League spot, the european place allocated to the FAI Cup would then go to pats.

Its not going to happen so I wouldn't worry about it.

**YankExile** · 05/01/2007, 2:52 AM

Ah, ok. Thanks for clearing that up.

**CharlesThompson** · 05/01/2007, 7:21 AM

I don't think you're right there Dodge. As far as I understand, the 3rd place league finish is 'worth more' than the runner up in the cup. If Derry were to be offered the CL spot then their Uefa Cup spot would go to third place in the league.

**monkey magic** · 05/01/2007, 9:24 AM

nope, dodge is right, it goes to the cup runers up, as witnessed when we lost the cup to bohsi n 2001 and still played in europe the year after...

**paul_oshea** · 05/01/2007, 9:47 AM

is he that greasy italian lawyer?

**WeAreRovers** · 05/01/2007, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

is he that greasy italian lawyer?

Who? Dodge?

KOH

**Dodge** · 05/01/2007, 3:34 PM

I'm proud of my italian heritage and resent the slur...

**Martinho II** · 05/01/2007, 4:04 PM

going back to the article on Shels, We are still due money on the transfer fee from Shels plus acc to one part newspaper Shels have to pay us 25% of the transfer fee if Dillon leaves them for a fee.

imo I hope he goes for a fee so that we can use this money to pay off the creditors but realisitically he will go on a free I would reckon Dillon has a good case.

**Student Mullet** · 05/01/2007, 5:05 PM

Originally Posted by Martinho II

We are still due money on the transfer fee from Shels

But Shels got their UEFA license. Surely that is proof positive that Shels owe no transfer money. The FAI would hardly give the license to a club that didn't meet all the criteria.

**TommyT** · 05/01/2007, 5:33 PM

Originally Posted by monkey magic

nope, dodge is right, it goes to the cup runers up, as witnessed when we lost the cup to bohsi n 2001 and still played in europe the year after...

If that was true we'd be witnessing Pats in the uefa this summer, the rules have changed in the interim.

**Student Mullet** · 05/01/2007, 5:36 PM

Originally Posted by TommyT

If that was true we'd be witnessing Pats in the uefa this summer, the rules have changed in the interim.

That's not correct. Derry are in the UEFA in the cup spot. The UEFA place only goes to second in the cup in the winners are in the champions league.

**passerrby** · 05/01/2007, 6:10 PM

Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge

I don't think so. AFAIK Shels passed all criteria to get a licence, which just shows how much of a farce it is.

thats exactly my point is that not what dd is saying

**Celdrog** · 05/01/2007, 6:17 PM

Originally Posted by Student Mullet

That's not correct. Derry are in the UEFA in the cup spot. The UEFA place only goes to second in the cup in the winners are in the champions league.

Spot on - Drogs were guaranteed UEFA last season before the cup final as Cork were champions. Win the cup and we got UEFA. Lose the cup and we still got UEFA as Cork were already in the CL

**pineapple stu** · 05/01/2007, 6:47 PM

The difference in Longford's case is that Bohs did the double in 2001.

**Dodge** · 05/01/2007, 6:51 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

The difference in Longford's case is that Bohs did the double in 2001.

As would Cork have been in the Drog example. Its a moot point though. BTW the Setanta spot would drop to the 5th in the league to further complicate things