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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Nightdub View Post
    Terrace up by a fiver to €15, stand up by a fiver as well I think, to €20. The terrace price represents a 50% increase and the stand a 33% increase. Season tickets up by similar percentages. Everyone will get a free programme, which softens the blow for those who normally buy programmes.

    Personally, I can see the need for an increase as the prices haven't gone up since the changeover from old money to the euro, and €15 for the terrace is the same as you pay into nearly every other ground, except Cork and Longford that I can think of. What bugs me is the way it was announced on its own, rather than as part of a wider strategy for improving the club's finances.
    Absolutely shocking!

    Your trying to encourage people around Inchicore to go to games and what do you do? Slap an extra €5 on to the entrance price.
    I actually hope your crowds plummet further than last season.

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    The Drogs tried to do something similar a few years back and there was uproar.
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    All of this has happened before. All of it will happen again.

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    this is nothign like what drogs tried
    pats havent increased the ticket prices since 2002 and so an increase was on the cards.
    the uproar from the fans was caused by the way it was announced (€5 on individual tickets or atleast 30% increase on season tickets) but with the free programme it works out at only a €2 increase which everyone can live with. Ok some ppl may not what the programme but thats their choice.
    With the new signings and the proper explanation of the increase there would not have been this reaction and the club know this and will hopefully learn from it

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackholesun View Post
    > you either build on sound principles or you are defrauding everyone (theres a load more still doing exactly waht shels done) - hopefully an utter collapse of shels will force change on the rest - real change rather than delaney speak PR búllshít

    WWS I hope you are including your own club in that list ... hiking up the gates to sign Ndo and ONeill on 1K a week each seems to be a move straight out of the Ollie managament handbook ...



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    i dnt give a fck what club it is - i dont have blinker vision like some on this forum

    a badly run strategy is a badly run strategy
    those running pats will tell you they are probably paying less than last season - which may even be true
    its just re arranging the deck chairs - zero sum game

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    CCFC have increased adult ground ticket from 13 to 15 euro for next season but having nice new stand makes that justified as well as fact already probably cheapest in the Premier division.

    Anyway back on topic. Given Shels current obvious financial plight I have to wonder what budget did they declare for their league licence application & for the IAG process...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete View Post
    CCFC have increased adult ground ticket from 13 to 15 euro for next season but having nice new stand makes that justified as well as fact already probably cheapest in the Premier division.

    Anyway back on topic. Given Shels current obvious financial plight I have to wonder what budget did they declare for their league licence application & for the IAG process...?

    Pete

    as if it wasn't abundantly clear by now that the "license" and the "IAG" process were complete shams.

    I really feel for that Maxi fella - far from a nut he was an enlightened soul in more ways than one.

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    dont want to jump threads but does all this not give substance to danny drews argument that he was treated differently
    I wish i did not know then what I dont know now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny View Post
    this is nothign like what drogs tried
    pats havent increased the ticket prices since 2002 and so an increase was on the cards.
    the uproar from the fans was caused by the way it was announced (€5 on individual tickets or atleast 30% increase on season tickets) but with the free programme it works out at only a €2 increase which everyone can live with. Ok some ppl may not what the programme but thats their choice.
    With the new signings and the proper explanation of the increase there would not have been this reaction and the club know this and will hopefully learn from it
    Hold on a sec... Pat's fans were also saying they got €100,000 from M'well for Molloy.
    It's not like it's even decent value for the FACILITIES in Richmond. Nowhere in the ground has a decent unobstructed view!

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    why are you so worked up about the charges?
    most fans i know will pay nothing next year as most season ticket holders are 5 year patrons with another free year still available to them....

    if you dnt know the ins and outs
    and doesnt effect you bar one or two trips a season
    why do you give a fck?

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    As someone interested in starting to attend games, my previous experience being two Bray Wanderes games when student tickets were €3 a few years back, €20 seems a bit steep. I know clubs have various season ticket packages etc. for regular supporters, but for a neutral (at least until Wexford Youths FC arrive) I think it's a bit prohibitive. Everyone complains about over priced cinema tickets and they're less than a tenner, and you usually know the quality of what your getting and it's warm and indoors!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wws View Post
    why are you so worked up about the charges?
    most fans i know will pay nothing next year as most season ticket holders are 5 year patrons with another free year still available to them....

    if you dnt know the ins and outs
    and doesnt effect you bar one or two trips a season
    why do you give a fck?
    it doesn't represent value for money and I don't want people associating that with the league I support.
    The only logical explanation you've come up with is, to pay for a better team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BohsFans View Post
    it doesn't represent value for money and I don't want people associating that with the league I support.
    The only logical explanation you've come up with is, to pay for a better team.
    two players signed over half a dozen left
    we're hardly on a bohs like spending splurge are we....

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    Quote Originally Posted by BohsFans View Post
    it doesn't represent value for money and I don't want people associating that with the league I support.
    The only logical explanation you've come up with is, to pay for a better team.
    So you're saying Bohs v Pats in Dalymount for €15 a head is value for money but Pats v Bohs in Richmond for €15 a head isn't? Come on...

    Your second sentence is closer to the truth - what drives crowds up or down is success or the lack of it. The cost of paying in to watch it is secondary - note, not unimportant, just secondary.

    I still reckon a couple of €2.50 raises since 2002 would've been a better way to go about it, rather than taking four years' backlog of foregone increases all in one go.

    (BTW, we're not getting €100k from Motherwell for Molloy - with appearances, etc the fee will increase, but it'll remain in five figures)
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete View Post
    but having nice new stand makes that justified as well as fact already probably cheapest in the Premier division.
    Any chance you can start speaking in full sentences so we can understand for sure what the hell you're on about?! Try typing -

    but having a nice new stand makes that justified as well as the fact that we are already probably the cheapest in the Premier division.

    Not too difficult, no?

    Going back on topic, I always find it funny when people complain about ticket prices for games. E15 is the cost of three pints, which nobody would complain about really. Go to an English Premier Division game - which many people do - and you're looking at the equivalent of at least E50 and at most double that again for the match alone, before you count flights, accommodation and rip-off travel agencies' fees. The prices aren't exhorbitant, although sometimes people like to use it as an excuse to justify not going to games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by passerrby View Post
    dont want to jump threads but does all this not give substance to danny drews argument that he was treated differently
    I don't think so. AFAIK Shels passed all criteria to get a licence, which just shows how much of a farce it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge View Post
    I don't think so. AFAIK Shels passed all criteria to get a licence, which just shows how much of a farce it is.
    As did CHF which shows what a real farce it is.

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    Pats fans, you can't divorce the facilities on offer from the price charged. The fact that most clubs haven't put up their prices for ages shows how ludicrous the hike to 15 yoyos was in the first place. Any chance clubs could show enough cop on to raise prices roughly in line with inflation and/or other sectors of the entertainment industry (stop sniggering)
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    Quote Originally Posted by TommyT View Post
    Pats fans, you can't divorce the facilities on offer from the price charged.
    True to an extent - and seeing as we've got the only two-storey jacks in the league, I reckon most people will gladly pay an extra fiver to p1ss on opposition fans from a height.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge View Post
    Hopefully they go bust, leaving Derry into the Champions League, and Pats into the UEFA.

    I honstly don't think I'd stop laughing
    I'm sorry, I think you lost me. Pats are 7th in the 2006 standings; why wouldn't the slot go to clubs above them? If Derry goes into the CL, then wouldn't this kick Cork into the UEFA Cup, and Sligo (being next in points after CCFC) into Intertoto action to replace Cork? (I'm kind of a soccer newb here, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.)
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