Plan B?

**gael353** · 23/12/2006, 12:54 AM

Just a question. If, and i say if. If the FAI/IRFU/GOV fail in their bid to build Landsdown road. Have they a plan B? I know they'll be allright for the next year or two in Croker but lets face it their relationship with the GAA isnt as good as the IRFUs. While i can see the IRFU extending their stay in Croker what of the FAI? Any ideas?

**Mr A** · 23/12/2006, 2:02 AM

Any ideas?

Panic?

**GavinZac** · 23/12/2006, 8:02 AM

why is it a bid? they're building it, 'failing' would be either a delay or building it upside down or something.

then again, it involves the FAI...

**p_o_r** · 23/12/2006, 1:17 PM

Originally Posted by gael353

Just a question. If, and i say if. If the FAI/IRFU/GOV fail in their bid to build Landsdown road. Have they a plan B? I know they'll be allright for the next year or two in Croker but lets face it their relationship with the GAA isnt as good as the IRFUs. While i can see the IRFU extending their stay in Croker what of the FAI? Any ideas?

The GAA have amended their rules to say that as long as Lansdowne is being re-developed the restriction on other soccer and rugby will not pertain to Croke Park.
An agreement is in place for 2007, and 2008 will probably be agreed also,
However if by the end of 2008 it looks like Lansdowne will not be build then the GAA could recommend a special congress to debate Croke Park and the amendment to the rule may be removed.
The Croke Park authorities cannot just withdraw the availability of Croke Park without a congress or special congress of the GAA as a whole.

If it is a case that one group (the IRFU) will play in Croke Park and not the other (the FAI) then that situation will be down to a breakdown in negotiations between Croke Park and the FAI.

So it is a possibility that the FAI may have to go to Britain but it would not suit them or the GAA if that were to happen.

If the development of Lansdowne looks like it could stall indefinitely then John O Donoughe or who ever his replacements might be post the election will have to get the finger out fairly shaprish and sort it out.

**highlight100** · 23/12/2006, 2:53 PM

I think Landsdown Rd will eventually be built,but if it is not we may see the Bertie Bowl rear it's head again

**theleprechaun** · 23/12/2006, 3:40 PM

what are all these muppets who are objecting to the new landsdown doing? sure we all have to live near something be it a road, dump, factory etc. they should not be allowed to delay it

**gael353** · 23/12/2006, 4:19 PM

Originally Posted by p_o_r

So it is a possibility that the FAI may have to go to Britain but it would not suit them or the GAA if that were to happen.

Do the FAI own or possess any land banks that they could develope themselves? And i mean anywhere in the country

**Dodge** · 23/12/2006, 4:47 PM

Originally Posted by theleprechaun

what are all these muppets who are objecting to the new landsdown doing? sure we all have to live near something be it a road, dump, factory etc. they should not be allowed to delay it

Funny thing is all of them bought those houses while Lansdowne was there.

**onenilgameover** · 24/12/2006, 2:19 AM

Plan B is not an option as it hasn't been ratified and will need to be scrapped. Plan C is still an option but the board still need to agree on it. Plan D is the more likely but nobody has actually heard what plan D is...

**eirebhoy** · 24/12/2006, 7:48 AM

Does anyone know how the appeals went last week? Also, isn't there plans to change the rail line so it won't be closing Lansdowne Road every 10 minutes? If that's the case then surely nobody on Lansdowne Road itself could be against this. It seems it's all the Bath Avenue residents. I assume Eoin Ryan is for the new Lansdowne? His house is one of the closest to the stadium.

**Cosmo** · 25/12/2006, 5:00 PM

Originally Posted by Hooperatzi

not quite true. as we saw with the training debacle, the GAA can stick a kids game on the day after an Irish match and declare the stadium unavailable.

Delaney might also grow some balls and tell the GAA that the deal is off while they act the maggot in tallaght.

There was a deliberate raising of the ante with the bogballers munster guy coming out and criticising the FAI and Dervans crude, but effective, response. why should the FAI fund the GAA blocking capital spending on football?

Tbh I'd prefer us playing in anfield or somewhere than give those w@nkers a cent towards the development of their biggoted sport

**gael353** · 25/12/2006, 11:18 PM

Originally Posted by gael353

Do the FAI own or possess any land banks that they could develope themselves? And i mean anywhere in the country

Ill ask again lads as im trying to give a big big hint here!

**gael353** · 27/12/2006, 12:00 AM

Originally Posted by Hooperatzi

we know it aint limerick....

who are these masses you speak of in such general terms?

ive got 50 acres which says otherwise.

**p_o_r** · 28/12/2006, 3:15 PM

Originally Posted by Cosmo

Tbh I'd prefer us playing in anfield or somewhere than give those w@nkers a cent towards the development of their biggoted sport

There are other who think the same way.

However it would do the FAI no good if they were to move home games to Britain with a stadium available in Dublin.

**Ringy** · 28/12/2006, 5:28 PM

Originally Posted by Cosmo

Tbh I'd prefer us playing in anfield or somewhere than give those w@nkers a cent towards the development of their biggoted sport

So you won't be in Croke Park next year supporting Ireland so?

**theleprechaun** · 28/12/2006, 8:31 PM

I totally disagree going to england or them across the water for anyone who saw apres match. it is bad enough we had to do it down through the ages but now we have money. the gaa should be forced by the government to let soccer and rugby play at croker. apart from anything going to england would cost a hell of a lot more than a stroll down to landsdown

**Wolfie** · 28/12/2006, 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by Hooperatzi

their house, their decision. we should just threaten to take our money and walk.

A spirited stand - but where will we walk to if they call our bluff?

The Wales and Slovakia at "Home" games are within four days of each other in less than 3 months.

The feasability of securing an alternative ground for both games so close together would be unrealistic at this stage and would delve the FAI into yet another unwanted crisis.

A wiser course of action would be to sit tight on the Croker 2007 deal and "sound out" alternatives for 2008 now - if they are required in the future.

**Wolfie** · 29/12/2006, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by Hooperatzi

while the rest of the football world is trying to stop the GAA forcing the government to let them play on our grounds.

their house, their decision. we should just threaten to take our money and walk.

Fair enough - interpreted the above as a suggested move away from playing at Croker during 2007 - as has been stated by some.

Paranoia reigns!!

**citizenerased** · 29/12/2006, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by Cosmo

Tbh I'd prefer us playing in anfield or somewhere than give those w@nkers a cent towards the development of their biggoted sport

yeah, well if the truth be told, the GAA are an amatuer organisation, have managed to develop a magnificant state of the art stadium. Why should they give it over willy nilly to an organisation who have done nothing but sold out the irish public. The only reason that the GAA agreed is that it would be unpatriotic and not in the best interests of the country to see any of our national teams play their home ties abroad. Aside from that it also makes economic sense for them, as croker is used only seasonally.

To refer to GAA as their biggotted support, suggests that you have not much patriotism, or fondness for your national sport which is an integral part of our heritage as a people.

Also the GAA have done more for this country than any other organisation. Any profits yielded, will go back into the grass roots of the game. Can you honestly say that about the FAI, when have they shown even a superficial interest in grass root football in Ireland. They dont even give a crap about their own "Premier Division"