FAI making progress, future looks bright...

**Dodge** · 18/12/2006, 11:07 AM

Who's in charge of the new league? Same guy who was in charge of the last one methinks... Oh with a new promotions officer with no experience and the head of the union now in a non threatening role.

**dcfcsteve** · 18/12/2006, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by Dodge

Who's in charge of the new league? Same guy who was in charge of the last one methinks...

Who's that then....?

**Dodge** · 18/12/2006, 11:47 AM

http://www.fai.ie/index.php?option=c...k=view&id=1539

Nothing has changed but the name (and Galway being promoted over Waterford)

**OneRedArmy** · 18/12/2006, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

http://www.fai.ie/index.php?option=c...k=view&id=1539

Nothing has changed but the name (and Galway being promoted over Waterford)

Time will tell Dodge, but I suspect things will change.

Money will be dangled like a carrot to get the FAI's way (the same way it was to get the clubs to hand over running of the League).

I've no idea whether the FAI's way will be any better, but they'll get their way now they are in charge.

**dcfcsteve** · 18/12/2006, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

http://www.fai.ie/index.php?option=c...k=view&id=1539

Nothing has changed but the name (and Galway being promoted over Waterford)

Mr. Paddy McCaul, Chairman of the out-going body, described the decision to merge with the FAI as �the dawn of a new era�.

Is Paddy McCaul still Chairman of the Eircom league under the FAI ? Are the Clubs still running the league ? If not - how can you claim the same person is in charge....?

If the same people were in charge of the league before and after the merger, then why did the FAI have to over-rule a League decision re McGuinness ? And why did the League then in-turn seek to have tat reversed ?

**Schumi** · 18/12/2006, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

Is Paddy McCaul still Chairman of the Eircom league under the FAI ?

Yes. http://breakingnews.iol.ie/sport/sto...93zzx&t=soccer

**dcfcsteve** · 18/12/2006, 1:27 PM

Originally Posted by Schumi

Yes. http://breakingnews.iol.ie/sport/sto...93zzx&t=soccer

Ahhhh - didn't know that. Thanks Schumi. Apologies Dodge.

I still don't accept (or perhaps don't want to acept !) the view that nothing will change though. Regardless if it's still the same figure-head - the FAI will want to do things their own way now.

It's all conjecture at this point, but the initial signs are that things will be different : if only re prize money, televised games and the implementation of licensing. Let's see is the usual inter-club shenanigans arise in the 2007 season, and how the FAI handle them.

**Dodge** · 18/12/2006, 1:33 PM

TV games roughly the same as last season, licensing ALWAYS been in the FAI's domain and the prize money is being funded mainly by increased fees for clubs and a lessening of proze money for lower placed clubs.

The real key is whether they actually follow through on their promises to promote the league. If they succeed here, I'll be happy enough

**pete** · 18/12/2006, 1:54 PM

There is supposed to be a participation agreement which hopefully will prevent the usual bickering but you know who... Hopefully its a case of keeping disputes within the agreed process & any threats to bring to the Courts dealt with severly.

**Dodge** · 18/12/2006, 1:59 PM

There was nothing stopping them bringing in these rules before. There was even a previous LOI/FAI merger. its window dressing

**Dazzy** · 18/12/2006, 2:32 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

The real key is whether they actually follow through on their promises to promote the league. If they succeed here, I'll be happy enough

They are empolying people at each club(premier)? to promote the league more in the local areas, but they need someone to do it on a national level.

**Dodge** · 18/12/2006, 2:40 PM

Plus they're not employing people at club level. They're paying €18k towards the employment of a person who needs to be paid twice that (at least). If a club is only going to employ a person on 18K (as I think most will) there'll be very little difference made. Noel Mooney is in charge of it nationally

**Schumi** · 18/12/2006, 2:48 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

Plus they're not employing people at club level. They're paying �18k towards the employment of a person who needs to be paid twice that (at least).

Thought it was 10k?

**Dodge** · 18/12/2006, 2:53 PM

Even worse...

**passerrby** · 18/12/2006, 5:05 PM

its up to 15k i think

**dcfcsteve** · 18/12/2006, 10:05 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

Plus they're not employing people at club level. They're paying �18k towards the employment of a person who needs to be paid twice that (at least). If a club is only going to employ a person on 18K (as I think most will) there'll be very little difference made. Noel Mooney is in charge of it nationally

To be fair - if club's get given money to employ a Promotions person and they then don't take it seriously, it's the clubs that are to blame (yet again...) and not the FAI.

They can't hold every single club's feckin hand all the time. Giving them all the money to create a Promotions post just doesn't make sense in my view. The post should be self-financing to a large degree - the whole exercise would be a waste of money if it couldn't even raise sufficient funding to pay for half its salary, let alone anything else.

**Dodge** · 19/12/2006, 1:04 AM

I agree steve but the clubs are broke and can't afford to spend 18-20k on a "promotions" officer, even if they need one badly.

**dcfcsteve** · 19/12/2006, 2:28 AM

Originally Posted by Dodge

I agree steve but the clubs are broke and can't afford to spend 18-20k on a "promotions" officer, even if they need one badly.

In which case, surely spending 18k on one is better than spending no money on none at all ?

I really can't see how this can be begrudged. The FAI are offering �400,000 to clubs to create a very important position that the majority couldn't afford to fund otherwise. It's the first time this has been actioned, and they're rightly beign financially cautious about this - hopefully waiting to see what sort of results it generates before throwing more money at what might well prove to be a pure waste. How can this step be viewed negatively ??

**Student Mullet** · 19/12/2006, 3:31 AM

Originally Posted by Dodge

I agree steve but the clubs are broke and can't afford to spend 18-20k on a "promotions" officer, even if they need one badly.

I think that's what the FAI are trying to get away from. Every club can be bothered spending 20k on a squad player and that money would probably be better spent on a promotions person.

**Dodge** · 19/12/2006, 8:17 AM

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

In which case, surely spending 18k on one is better than spending no money on none at all ?

I really can't see how this can be begrudged. The FAI are offering �400,000 to clubs to create a very important position that the majority couldn't afford to fund otherwise.... How can this step be viewed negatively ??

Its not 400K, its between 10-18k for each premier division club. First division clubs get nothing. I'd much rather they sent the money on a dedicated, co-ordinated advertising/marketing budget at a national level. If they had a fund which clubs could draw down from (on the basis of costed plans) all the better

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