Dundalk dig deeper hole

**hoopy** · 15/12/2006, 3:30 PM

Can someone tell me why,if this is a shock to John Gill, has he spent the last few weeks signing and approaching FIRST DIVISION players?

**gerryscore** · 15/12/2006, 3:34 PM

why ask a question you know the answer to? gill is obviously using this to motivate his players for next season. did anyone expect anything different?

**hoopy** · 15/12/2006, 3:40 PM

Originally Posted by gerryscore

why ask a question you know the answer to? gill is obviously using this to motivate his players for next season. did anyone expect anything different?

So Gill is allowed to sign first division players, then Dundalk run amok over having to play there next season. Super business practice. The gas thing, and something I'm amazed at, is that not one Dundalk fan seems to know that your chairman told your manager a few weeks ago that Dundalk wouldn't have the budget to compete in the Premier division

**mcgonigle** · 15/12/2006, 3:42 PM

Originally Posted by WeAreRovers

Our club is run well in a professional manner and has firm targets to reach in the next 5 years across all aspects of football - on the pitch, off the pitch and in the community.

Rovers have only been run in a "professional" manner for the last year, before that Rovers were the biggest embarrassment of all, with your dodgy practices, you should be ashamed, I think you should take a good long look at how your club used to be before having a go at other clubs.

Your club and Limerick, on the other hand are both a complete mess (Limerick are worse obviously but it's all relative)

Sort your club out and see what happens. You never know, it might surprise you....

KOH

How can a club that obtains a Premier licence be a mess??? (Cant wait to hear you explain this one) and remember we abided by the strict criteria (as you's like to call it)to get it

**mcgonigle** · 15/12/2006, 3:43 PM

Originally Posted by hoopy

The gas thing, and something I'm amazed at, is that not one Dundalk fan seems to know that your chairman told your manager a few weeks ago that Dundalk wouldn't have the budget to compete in the Premier division

Have you a source for this or were you in the room at the time??

**WeAreRovers** · 15/12/2006, 3:46 PM

Originally Posted by oriel

We are rovers

You avoided every single point I raised.

Never once did I make the suggestion that DFC ticks every box going, far from it infact, its the thought of other fans having a go while suggesting that eveything is rosy in their garden, typical irish double standards, of which rovers are a prime and disgraceful example of.

If you had read the widely available results fromt the IAG, you will see we actually came joint 8th overall from 21 clubs on the off field points section.

Only because you answered them yourself. All of Rovers transgressions over the last few years (as listed by you) cost us points in the off-the-field criteria. Hence being 2 points behind Dundalk.

But, and it's a massive but, things have changed at Rovers - in a fundamental way and for the better. This has been taken into consideration by the FAI and the IAG.

As pointed out before, this is about the future of Irish football not the past. Otherwise Rovers and Dundalk would be the first 2 teams in the League.

KOH

**mcgonigle** · 15/12/2006, 3:52 PM

Originally Posted by WeAreRovers

As pointed out before, this is about the future of Irish football not the past. Otherwise Rovers and Dundalk would be the first 2 teams in the League.

KOH

Just curious, if this is true then why did they take the last 4 years on the field performances into account when they made the criteria??

**hoopy** · 15/12/2006, 3:58 PM

Originally Posted by mcgonigle

Have you a source for this or were you in the room at the time??

Let's just say one of your manager's buddies has a big mouth

**mcgonigle** · 15/12/2006, 4:00 PM

Originally Posted by hoopy

Let's just say one of your manager's buddies has a big mouth

Its not Billy Big Mouth is it?

Damn him!

**Billy Lord** · 15/12/2006, 4:05 PM

Originally Posted by mcgonigle

Rovers have only been run in a "professional" manner for the last year, before that Rovers were the biggest embarrassment of all, with your dodgy practices, you should be ashamed, I think you should take a good long look at how your club used to be before having a go at other clubs.

How do you expect to be taken seriously when you make clueless remarks such as that?
Not only were we ashamed of those dodgy practices, we also ran those responsible out of our club, paid for and bought our club out of examinership, and now run the club ourselves.

**hoopy** · 15/12/2006, 4:07 PM

Originally Posted by mcgonigle

Its not Billy Big Mouth is it?

Damn him!

Unfortunately for you I don't have a big mouth

**mcgonigle** · 15/12/2006, 4:11 PM

Originally Posted by Billy Lord

Not only were we ashamed of those dodgy practices, we also ran those responsible out of our club, paid for and bought our club out of examinership, and now run the club ourselves.

Yes and you all should be congratulated for that. But when your supporters come on here saying Dundalk are a complete mess now and for years (which is a load of b*llix) your bound to get a similar reply about your club.

Dundalk like yourselves have made mistakes in the past and are not proud of them, but the club is being run right now and is far from a "mess", so all I'm doing is defending my club against constant attacks from Rovers supporters, same way you would defend your club

**mcgonigle** · 15/12/2006, 4:12 PM

Originally Posted by hoopy

Unfortunately for you I don't have a big mouth

Thats a surprise from reading your posts

**NY Hoop** · 15/12/2006, 4:16 PM

Originally Posted by mcgonigle

Yes and you all should be congratulated for that. But when your supporters come on here saying Dundalk are a complete mess now and for years (which is a load of b*llix) your bound to get a similar reply about your club.

Dundalk like yourselves have made mistakes in the past and are not proud of them, but the club is being run right now and is far from a "mess", so all I'm doing is defending my club against constant attacks from Rovers supporters, same way you would defend your club

Shels fans also think their club is run right. Dig deeper. I'm not slagging just saying prepare yourself.

KOH

**WeAreRovers** · 15/12/2006, 4:17 PM

Originally Posted by mcgonigle

Dundalk like yourselves have made mistakes in the past and are not proud of them, but the club is being run right now and is far from a "mess", so all I'm doing is defending my club against constant attacks from Rovers supporters, same way you would defend your club

Anyone who visited Oriel last season would strongly dispute that as would anyone who's had business dealings with DFC recently as would anyone who witnessed the childish antics of your club employees this week. Dundalk is not a well run club.

KOH