Fenlon new Derry City manager

**Mr_T** · 11/12/2006, 9:49 AM

Originally Posted by ccfcgirl

...All these people leaving Shels isnt good for our league ....

Originally Posted by TonyD

Maybe, maybe not. It's a bloody good laugh though

Post of the month nominee!!

**dcfcsteve** · 11/12/2006, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by bigmac

to get back to the actual subject though, do people think that this is a good move for Derry? Maybe it's just me, but I always thought that Fenlon underachieved a little at Shels. I know he has a good record, but given the funds that were at his disposal, did he really get the best out of his teams?

Fair point. Three league titles in 4 years is just unacceptable. What the fcuk are we dong signing an under-achiever like that....?!?!

**bigmac** · 11/12/2006, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

Fair point. Three league titles in 4 years is just unacceptable. What the fcuk are we doing signing an under-achiever like that....?!?!

There have been many discussions on this board about how Richardson and Kenny seemed to be able to prepare teams better for Europe so I'm not trying to be a WUM or anything. The real test of a manager comes when you don't have the best squad around and with so much more money than everyone else, it should be expected that Shels would be favourites every year and would be there or thereabouts at the end of the season.
Pete asked how Fenlon will perform on a much smaller transfer budget, and a much tighter wage structure and I think it's a good point. He won't have the option of bringing in cover players on much more money than first teamers in other clubs (Alan Reynolds for example). Is he going to move to Derry? Will he want to bring in more players who will move to Derry? I'm not saying he isn't a good choice, but at the end of the day I think Derry won't have as good a manager next season as they did this season. Anyone from Derry want to maybe give a reasoned summary of pros and cons as they see it perhaps?

**Paraic** · 11/12/2006, 12:17 PM

It's an interesting move for Fenlon - the easy option in terms of resources etc would have been to go to Bohs, but there's no doubting his track record in recent years.

Irrespective of budgets, the manager still has to connect with the players and get them winning. There's no doubting he has done that, particularly this season, and maybe the challenge of probably a tighter budget was part of what attracted him

**pineapple stu** · 11/12/2006, 12:25 PM

Very slightly off topic, but had to bring up this hilarious thread on the Shels MB. Quality stuff!

**headtheball** · 11/12/2006, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Very slightly off topic, but had to bring up this hilarious thread on the Shels MB. Quality stuff!

Whose the Sharpe character..He knows how to wind them boys up..Afew taking the bait too..

**pineapple stu** · 11/12/2006, 12:58 PM

I love the way he gets threatened with a ban for talking rubbish, but Gareth or Pat doesn't.

And all the Shels fans still think they're a big club even after everything that's been predicted has started to come true.

**dcfcsteve** · 11/12/2006, 5:39 PM

Originally Posted by bigmac

There have been many discussions on this board about how Richardson and Kenny seemed to be able to prepare teams better for Europe so I'm not trying to be a WUM or anything. The real test of a manager comes when you don't have the best squad around and with so much more money than everyone else, it should be expected that Shels would be favourites every year and would be there or thereabouts at the end of the season.
Pete asked how Fenlon will perform on a much smaller transfer budget, and a much tighter wage structure and I think it's a good point. He won't have the option of bringing in cover players on much more money than first teamers in other clubs (Alan Reynolds for example). Is he going to move to Derry? Will he want to bring in more players who will move to Derry? I'm not saying he isn't a good choice, but at the end of the day I think Derry won't have as good a manager next season as they did this season. Anyone from Derry want to maybe give a reasoned summary of pros and cons as they see it perhaps?

Pros and Cons ??

We lost a very good manager to Scottish football. We're replacing him with the most successful Manager in Irish football this side of the millenium. We can all conject about what might have happened had our dad's been our mum's etc, but speculation means feck all.

That's the pros and cons in a nut shell....

**headtheball** · 11/12/2006, 6:06 PM

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

Pros and Cons ??

We lost a very good manager to Scottish football. We're replacing him with the most successful Manager in Irish football this side of the millenium. We can all conject about what might have happened had our dad's been our mum's etc, but speculation means feck all.

That's the pros and cons in a nut shell....

Nail on the head Steve...Looking forward to hear Pat's press conference tomorrow. He has already mentioned how excited he is taking over our fantastic squad...Can't wait now to see who he may be adding to the panel as well...

Setanta cup can't come quick enuff at the minute...

**dcfcsteve** · 11/12/2006, 6:09 PM

Oh - and he's moving to to the City as well, with family to follow in June once the school year ends......

Maybe a significant portion of Shel's limited support will also switch allegiances now. Though only once the school year ends in June......

**Jerry The Saint** · 11/12/2006, 6:48 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

I love the way he gets threatened with a ban for talking rubbish, but Gareth or Pat doesn't. And all the Shels fans still think they're a big club even after everything that's been predicted has started to come true.

You have to remember that the Shels forum is hosted in some sort of Bizarro world so the normal rules of sense and logic do not apply.

One thing about Ollie he sticks to his word

What I want to know is what action the militant Shels fans will take now that there are no more games this season and they don't have any more programmes to print?

**LukeO** · 11/12/2006, 7:08 PM

Ordinary World - Ollie's lament for Pat

Came in from a rainy Friday
On the Richmond Rd
Thought I heard Pat talking softly

I turned on the lights, the TV
And the radio
Still I can't escape the ghost of you

What has happened to it all?
Crazy, some are saying
Where is the Pat that I recognize?
Gone away

But I won't cry for yesterday
There's an ordinary world
Somehow I have to find
And as I try to make my way
To the ordinary world
I will learn to survive

Passion or coincidence
Once prompted you to say
"Broken promises will tear us both apart"
Well now Pat's gone out the window
Cross the border
Run away
Left me in the vacuum of my heart

What is happening to me?
Crazy, some'd say
Where is my Pat when I need him most?
Gone away

But I won't cry for yesterday
There's an ordinary world
Somehow I have to find
And as I try to make my way
To the ordinary world
I will learn to survive

Papers in the roadside
Tell of suffering and greed
Here today, forgot tomorrow
Ooh, here besides the news
Of unpaid wages and bouncing cheques
Ours is just a little sorrowed talk

And I don't cry for yesterday
There's an ordinary world
Somehow I have to find
And as I try to make my way
To the ordinary world
I will learn to survive

Shelbourne�
Is my world, I will learn to survive
Shelbourne�
Is my world, I will learn to survive
Shelbourne�
Is my world
Shelbourne�
Is my world

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

That's the pros and cons in a nut shell....

Shouldn't that be "nutsy shell"