Due Process...my arse

**mypost** · 11/12/2006, 1:31 AM

Originally Posted by BohsFans

Best of luck to the GAA!

That stand/pitch should be for the whole Tallaght community and therefore cater for a range of sports, not just for the Shamrocks.

On our fight against the TD's, trust Bohs to go against the grain of unaminous support for us from the NL community.

**Macy** · 11/12/2006, 7:37 AM

Originally Posted by A-Mayo-Sheep

but there seems to be a thing on this board that if somethings wrong its the gaas fault(rovers are right here though)!

But in this case it is the GAA's fault ffs. Thomas Davis are a GAA club who, with the support of the GAA as an organisation, are trying to block a sports facility for the people of Tallaght simply to stop Shamrock Rovers playing in the area. You continue to defend them, and continue to ignore the point as to do so would be to admit that the GAA is in the wrong.

**BohDiddley** · 11/12/2006, 9:29 AM

Originally Posted by Hooperatzi

here it is

Thanks. Here it is in the Indo. Ironically, they also want a Prime Time special on the subject, or an Oireachtas Committee! Hopefully any such investigation would deliver a total balance sheet on public funding of GAA v other sports.

'... the GAA clubs do not appear to be for turning if a line from an email sent last September by David Kennedy of Thomas Davis to Dublin County Board secretary John Costello, and seen by the Irish Independent, is anything to go by.
"I'm confident that in any nbout (sic) with Rovers that the GAA will be the last man standing," wrote Kennedy.'

**GuisaSaigon** · 11/12/2006, 10:29 AM

a bit off topic but heres another GAA bigot talking rubbish about soccer "on their patch"http://hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=70067
I reckon the FAI are well aware of the all Ireland club fights and wouldnt dream of asking them to change from Paddys day. As for "triumphalism" , ............... woo hoo ! were going to play in Croke Park

.............get over it.

**khoop** · 11/12/2006, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by GuisaSaigon

a bit off topic but heres another GAA bigot talking rubbish about soccer "on their patch"

Saw that. Absolute rubbish. But the problem is, it's deliberately rabble-rousing. The normal GAA heads believe that kind of crap and regard it has hard evidence of how terrible the FAI is.

**NY Hoop** · 11/12/2006, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by BohsFans

A statement that is wrong on so many levels!

and the sad thing is YOU know it too!

With a signature like that

Go away minnow. Anybody who is not backing Rovers in this mess has no interest in the sport in this country. They dont have a case. End of.

KOH

**BohsFans** · 11/12/2006, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by NY Hoop

With a signature like that

Go away minnow. Anybody who is not backing Rovers in this mess has no interest in the sport in this country. They dont have a case. End of.

KOH

What's the problem with my signature?

We are recognised as the big club whether you like it or not!

Now off to buy that new car in Airton!

**chippie0001** · 11/12/2006, 12:44 PM

In fairness there are 2 sides to the story and people seem to only see one side. Soccer has no right to expect stadia to be built for them for nothing that other sports cannot use. Like it or not we are a minority sport here at that level. The GAA get large grants but also plough millions of their own money into stadia, we spend all our money and more on players and neglect our stadia. That is our fault, clubs could get grants for donkeys years if they inject some of their own cash but they don't, they prefer to spend it on players. Look at Rovers, they got over a million in grants that went on the first team. We have to look at ourselves before we criticise other bodies. Public money should be used for the public benefit, and it can be argued that a team that get 2,000 every second week is a good use of money. Thats side one. In the view of the GAA, soccer is getting a 100% funded stadium from lottery and government funds, something they never get.

The other side is that the GAA don't need Tallaght, only want to waste time in the hope that Rovers will fold. They have plenty of sites and space about the place to build a venue on the soutside if they so choose. TD seem to think that its a them or us situation and obviously fear losing that battle. I tend to think that this is the main reason why they are doing this and thats wrong and I hope they lose in court and the stadium proceeds.

However people need to look at this neutrally and not with rose tinted glasses on. The GAA are not 100% to blame in this mess either.

**Macy** · 11/12/2006, 1:15 PM

Originally Posted by chippie0001

In the view of the GAA, soccer is getting a 100% funded stadium from lottery and government funds, something they never get.

So they'll presumably be looking for the national aquatic centre to be changed to conform with their pitch dimensions too?

**khoop** · 11/12/2006, 2:24 PM

Originally Posted by chippie0001

However people need to look at this neutrally and not with rose tinted glasses on. The GAA are not 100% to blame in this mess either

Well it's easy to pontificate when your club has just sold a ground for tens of millions that was originally acquired for a few shillings. Nice money if you can get it.

If Rovers hadn't been raped by Kilcoyne - and if we still had Milltown - we'd be the richest club in the country asset-wise.

The GAA are 100% to blame on this because they are trying to prevent Rovers setting up in Tallaght for their own selfish reasons. They do NOT need the stadium and never have done. They wouldn't care less if it never got built, which is why they continue to drag the saga out for as long as possible.

I don't swim. So the national aqautic centre is no use to me.

I detest horses. So McCreavey's Punchestown project is no use to me.

I've only a passing interest in golf. So the millions spent around the Ryder Cup seemed wasteful to me.

I hate GAA. So the 180 million euros of government money spent on Croke Park is no use to me. Not to mention the tens of millions spent on other GAA stadiums and clubs every year.

But can I do anything about it???

No.

**NY Hoop** · 11/12/2006, 2:27 PM

Originally Posted by BohsFans

We are recognised as the big club whether you like it or not!

By whom?

Chippie there are 2 sides to every story. Their case is small minded rubbish: "people of Tallaght being fed on a diet of association football" just one of many memorable quotes they have come out.

They have a ground already. We dont. They have 26 acres in Rathcoole etc etc.

KOH

**osarusan** · 11/12/2006, 2:41 PM

Originally Posted by khoop

The GAA are 100% to blame on this because they are trying to prevent Rovers setting up in Tallaght for their own selfish reasons. They do NOT need the stadium and never have done. They wouldn't care less if it never got built, which is why they continue to drag the saga out for as long as possible.

I don't swim. So the national aqautic centre is no use to me.

I detest horses. So McCreavey's Punchestown project is no use to me.

I've only a passing interest in golf. So the millions spent around the Ryder Cup seemed wasteful to me.

I hate GAA. So the 180 million euros of government money spent on Croke Park is no use to me. Not to mention the tens of millions spent on other GAA stadiums and clubs every year.

But can I do anything about it???

No.

To be fair, you are not painting a picture of yourself as the most objective thinker on this whole topic....................shouldnt you at least try to be objective?

By your rationale, why should any other club care about what happens to Rovers??

**BohDiddley** · 11/12/2006, 3:36 PM

Originally Posted by chippie0001

However people need to look at this neutrally

I disagree. When was the last time the GAA or its agents in sports administration and government in this country acted neutrally? The one time a Minister says no to them, we have merry hell.
It's high time football started to fight its corner, especially when we can all see the GAA mentality that is driving this. Many people want to appease the GAA, principally because they happen to be followers of the two codes. But the GAA, by its actions and statements, is forcing people to choose.
Others among us may be in the comfortable (and in my view extremely providential) position of never having even been tempted to follow Gaelic football, but that's irrelevant.
On Thomas Davis, you are either for football or for GAA. There is no middle ground.

**Billy Lord** · 11/12/2006, 4:09 PM

Why should Shamrock Rovers look neutrally when someone's trying to kll our club?
When the head of Thomas Davis says that in a battle between the GAA and Shamrock Rovers that the GAA will be the last man standing - which he did, and that's a fact - then it's quite clear that those bigoted *******s are out to kill SRFC.
Unfortunately for the bogballers and stickfighters, that ain't going to happen. We'll see them and their evil empire down first. And that's a promise.

**GavinZac** · 11/12/2006, 7:54 PM

Originally Posted by Billy Lord

Why should Shamrock Rovers look neutrally when someone's trying to kll our club?
When the head of Thomas Davis says that in a battle between the GAA and Shamrock Rovers that the GAA will be the last man standing - which he did, and that's a fact - then it's quite clear that those bigoted *******s are out to kill SRFC.
Unfortunately for the bogballers and stickfighters, that ain't going to happen. We'll see them and their evil empire down first. And that's a promise.

we need to convince abramovich to set up a rival gaelic games federation, paying fair wages for professional gaelic athletes, just to crush the GAA. he'll get bored eventually and move on, and step forth the eircom league!