Football in Shannon

**brutus** · 10/07/2007, 1:54 PM

Originally Posted by hacker

why would lads play 1b in limerick instead of premier in clare????

I was talking to 2 of the lads and they were unhappy with lack of games,management called up bunch of youths for last 2 or 3 games of the season,4 out of the six started and the 3 of the A team players where left stunned just sitting on the bench with no reason why they werent involved.

**Side Cutter** · 10/07/2007, 2:24 PM

Originally Posted by hacker

why would lads play 1b in limerick instead of premier in clare????

Better referees

**shelbourne1904** · 10/07/2007, 4:27 PM

Originally Posted by Side Cutter

Better referees

Better Limerick referees who dont like Shannon teams!!
Check the Wesley Webb!!!!

**Lev Yashin** · 10/07/2007, 6:28 PM

Originally Posted by shelbourne1904

Better Limerick referees who dont like Shannon teams!!Check the Wesley Webb!!!!

too true it is a major problem, the treatment teams from shannon get in limerick is a disgrace...i have also heard from someone who has played with park and shannon town that shannon town get it alot worse...now that is only second hand information so not sure how true it is but i do know how shannon town are treated by SOME referee's and it is deplorable

**old git** · 12/07/2007, 8:03 AM

Originally Posted by brutus

I was talking to 2 of the lads and they were unhappy with lack of games,management called up bunch of youths for last 2 or 3 games of the season,4 out of the six started and the 3 of the A team players where left stunned just sitting on the bench with no reason why they werent involved.

anybody confirm 3-4 newtown lads trained with park rangers earleir in the week ..

did not hear any names so it may be the usuall rumours

**brutus** · 12/07/2007, 9:22 AM

Originally Posted by old git

anybody confirm 3-4 newtown lads trained with park rangers earleir in the week ..

did not hear any names so it may be the usuall rumours

Ya 3 players went down to see what it was like,tom o hare,David Egan,julian woods and bj cantillon,doesnt mean there are joining doh,newtown training on dis evening the lads will still turn up for that.
Dermot finnan rang these lads and asked would they just come down for a look.

**old git** · 12/07/2007, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by brutus

Ya 3 players went down to see what it was like,tom o hare,David Egan,julian woods and bj cantillon,doesnt mean there are joining doh,newtown training on dis evening the lads will still turn up for that.
Dermot finnan rang these lads and asked would they just come down for a look.

doesnt mean they are also signing for newtown .. doh must be intrested in leaving if they went down to park for a look..

must have liked the look as they stayed & played a full match...

not very fair or newtown or park .. players should know by now who they are signing for .. instead of messing around 2 clubs .

**manalishi** · 12/07/2007, 11:22 AM

just shows the stupidity of those who thwarted the amalgamation.Some of the guys mentioned couldnt get out of bed for games last year and now they are in a position to pick which club they can let down this year!!!And worse still the clubs have to court them.
Sad situation.Whichever of the clubs looses out inthis battle will be in serious trouble this year as there are not enough players around anymore and it is getting even worse if you judge by the fact that there was only one youths and 17s team in Shannon and surrounds this year.

Somethings gotta give!!!!!

**brutus** · 12/07/2007, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by old git

doesnt mean they are also signing for newtown .. doh must be intrested in leaving if they went down to park for a look..

must have liked the look as they stayed & played a full match...

not very fair or newtown or park .. players should know by now who they are signing for .. instead of messing around 2 clubs .

old git every player has to look out for his best interest,if a player knows he has the quality to be part of a team and isnt getting a look in,while training twice a week and seen players not be at training at all,but will always start on a sunday morning,its a shambles,has nothing to do with being fair to newtown or park.

**Lev Yashin** · 12/07/2007, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by brutus

old git every player has to look out for his best interest,if a player knows he has the quality to be part of a team and isnt getting a look in,while training twice a week and seen players not be at training at all,but will always start on a sunday morning,its a shambles,has nothing to do with being fair to newtown or park.

this happens at all clubs....as some players know they wont be dropped regardless of how little they train or how little work they put in.

as for players going down to see the set up at park...i dont see anything wrong with that but as far as im concerned they are playing in 1b in limerick which is a league of hoofing the ball and running after it...

**brutus** · 12/07/2007, 1:19 PM

Originally Posted by shannonman

this happens at all clubs....as some players know they wont be dropped regardless of how little they train or how little work they put in.

as for players going down to see the set up at park...i dont see anything wrong with that but as far as im concerned they are playing in 1b in limerick which is a league of hoofing the ball and running after it...

That true about hoofing the ball and running after it,but the lads down in park arent going to be looking at it like that,for such a big club,a premier club for years,there after getting in dermot finnan in to get to club where it belongs,so the lads who play this season in 1b,they wont be thinking about anything but playing football on the deck and getting the club back in track.

**Brazil Nut** · 12/07/2007, 1:29 PM

Dermot finnan rang these lads and asked would they just come down for a look.[/QUOTE]

What do players have on their mind when they say their going down for a look? They all know what the pitches are like, changing facilities etc. They know what league/division they will be playing in depending on WHO THEY CHOOSE

and dont tell me players will be looking at the quality of training because if their not playing they wont be happy no matter how good training is. Therefore players going down for a look is IMO purely scoping out will they get a game week in week out. The thing i dont understand is all these lads go from club to club together. Surely they understand their is only 11 places on any team. I know they might be friends or whatever but if they all cant make it at one club the likelihood is they all wont make it at the other!

**Brazil Nut** · 12/07/2007, 1:37 PM

Originally Posted by brutus

old git every player has to look out for his best interest,if a player knows he has the quality to be part of a team and isnt getting a look in,while training twice a week and seen players not be at training at all,but will always start on a sunday morning,its a shambles,has nothing to do with being fair to newtown or park.

Fair point but it's a vicous circle. Some players work away from home, are in college, work eve etc. While it's true a manager only plays these lads because their good players if they wern't they definitely wouldn't be playing and lads that are not as good maybe training twice a week and not getting the game on a sunday. But i guarantee you those lads will have got their chance at some stage and didn't impress or were just not good enough. The manager will obviously play his best 11 as long as lads are not taking the mick.

Hacker what is your opinion on the above would you agree??

**old git** · 12/07/2007, 1:38 PM

Originally Posted by brutus

old git every player has to look out for his best interest,if a player knows he has the quality to be part of a team and isnt getting a look in,while training twice a week and seen players not be at training at all,but will always start on a sunday morning,its a shambles,has nothing to do with being fair to newtown or park.

every club is the same ... only 11 can start... manager deceides
unfortunatly it also means players starting who have not trained this has been going on for years .. and it will be no differnt at park rangers of course dermot finnan will bull**** players about definatly starting every week .. but you know & i know this won't happen

**brutus** · 12/07/2007, 2:00 PM

Originally Posted by Brazil Nut

Dermot finnan rang these lads and asked would they just come down for a look.

What do players have on their mind when they say their going down for a look? They all know what the pitches are like, changing facilities etc. They know what league/division they will be playing in depending on WHO THEY CHOOSE

and dont tell me players will be looking at the quality of training because if their not playing they wont be happy no matter how good training is. Therefore players going down for a look is IMO purely scoping out will they get a game week in week out. The thing i dont understand is all these lads go from club to club together. Surely they understand their is only 11 places on any team. I know they might be friends or whatever but if they all cant make it at one club the likelihood is they all wont make it at the other![/QUOTE]

I have to disagree with your bit at the end,its nothing to do with friends changing clubs together is nonsense,this is junior football now,not schoolboys if a player goes to club he not looking behind to see whos following,thats nonsense a player goes to a club for his own and best interest,
friends dont give a crap about who is playing or not,everyman for himself on the pitch for there club.

**old git** · 12/07/2007, 2:29 PM

Originally Posted by brutus

What do players have on their mind when they say their going down for a look? They all know what the pitches are like, changing facilities etc. They know what league/division they will be playing in depending on WHO THEY CHOOSE

and dont tell me players will be looking at the quality of training because if their not playing they wont be happy no matter how good training is. Therefore players going down for a look is IMO purely scoping out will they get a game week in week out. The thing i dont understand is all these lads go from club to club together. Surely they understand their is only 11 places on any team. I know they might be friends or whatever but if they all cant make it at one club the likelihood is they all wont make it at the other!

I have to disagree with your bit at the end,its nothing to do with friends changing clubs together is nonsense,this is junior football now,not schoolboys if a player goes to club he not looking behind to see whos following,thats nonsense a player goes to a club for his own and best interest,
friends dont give a crap about who is playing or not,everyman for himself on the pitch for there club.[/QUOTE]

friends do care 2-3 newtown lads who went to look at parks set up are all friends .. so it does happen . would agree with not caring about freinds / family as long as i got a game ..

**Lev Yashin** · 12/07/2007, 2:58 PM

Originally Posted by brutus

That true about hoofing the ball and running after it,but the lads down in park arent going to be looking at it like that,for such a big club,a premier club for years,there after getting in dermot finnan in to get to club where it belongs,so the lads who play this season in 1b,they wont be thinking about anything but playing football on the deck and getting the club back in track.

im sure they will try and play ball on the deck which they will be able to do at home no problem....it will be harder for them to do it away from home when they are being kicked and playing on p*ss poor pitch's.(im speaking from experience)