QuoteI dont see how that is relevant ?
Joe Gambles first spell in England after leaving Cork City could hardly have been deemed a success.
I dont see how that is relevant ?
Maybe Reading were too stupid to spot & develop talent?Originally Posted by Tenderloins
A point was made earlier about the SPL v the EL.
The SPL has better facilities and more money than the EL no disputing that.
However I would contend that without Celtic, Rangers, Hibs, Hearts and Aberdeen, the rest of the teams would be within range for ANY Premier Division club in the EL . I feel any EL Premier team could beat the dross from that League on any given day. Derry for example could take Dunfermline, in spite of the inside knowledge of the Pars coach.
aside from the fact that you have taken out almost half of the premier division there (5/12) , why did you take the second place irish side and the bottom placed scottish side? why not compare a more like for like
any eL premier division club??? why not say waterford would take falkirk (they wouldn't), bray would take motherwell (they wouldn't), or ucd would take kilmarnock (they wouldn't).
the argument is as stupid as the one i hear in scotland that outside the top four in england the spl is just as good because celtic would easily beat charlton.
Colin
The English Premiership outside the Champions League sides is muck, indisputable. Celtic probably would beat Charlton... at home. Rangers would probably give most of the non CL Premiership sides a hiding too... at home.
I would imagine that many of the top 5 sides I have excluded would.
I omitted them because, they are the wealthiest clubs in Scotland and have over the past century and a bit dominated the Rolls of Honour there. Some of the lesser clubs have enjoyed better times include Dundee United , who on present form are scheidt.
And I do believe Waterford would not necessarily lose to Falkirk... all the time.
UCD played Kilmarnock, in a pre-season friendly, about 10 years ago and it was a very tight game . As far as I can recall we lost by the odd goal in three. We I imagine would be stronger than we were then. Kilmarnock had a Yugoslav international goalkeeper playing for them that day.. Dragoje Lekovic.
Anyway, bck to the point of the thread about Falkirk being interested in Quigley ! he was over there all last week, loved it and if offered a contract will sign for them.
Source?
It was in the Star yesterday. Said he's had 2 day trials at Fulham, West Ham, Stockport and Falkirk. Said he got the best vibe off Falkirk and felt unlike sitting behind Green at West Ham he can seize the No. 1 spot at Broadwood.
Sunday Times today.
Quigley poised to net Falkirk deal
UCD goalkeeper Darren Quigley looks set to sign for Falkirk after impressing in a trial there last week.
‘Darren has done very well this week,’ Falkirk manager John Hughes said. ‘I’d have to see him in a game situation but he has settled in and looks the part.’
We're not arrogant, we're just better.
Free transfer?
Don't know, nothing in the article either way.
We're not arrogant, we're just better.
I was talking to his better half last wednesday and she was telling me, said he hated Stockport and wasn't kean on West Ham either. Falkirk was his favoured move.
Do you know if UCD are due a fee for him?
The only fee i think they are due is that Player U23 development fee thingy, because she said he was out of contract.Do you know if UCD are due a fee for him?
That's about as much as an eL club like UCD would get for him anyway I think.
Well fingers crossed they get a fair few bob for him because in fairness he has become the player he is today because of UCD. Who decides this fee ?
Some arbitration committe or something. I hear it's a pretty mathematical formula that's used by UEFA. Only problem is a club official told me we wouldn't be due anything for him as he was moving abroad but I don't think he knew what he was on about.
As far as I know if the clubs can't come to an agreement, some panel makes a decision based on criteria like how long he's been at the club, his wages, international appearances, etc.
We're not arrogant, we're just better.
Most leagues are though. Middlesbrough making the final of the UEFA Cup showed the level that competition is at, I would expect a good team that parachuted in from the CL to be hot favourites. How good really are the teams from the lower reaches of Serie A or La Liga, let alone the Bundesliga or Ligue 1. Football has got to the stage where there is a huge discrepancy between the top handful of sides and the rest - does anyone really believe that Englands CL representatives next year won't be the same as this year? Even the EL, which has been relatively competitive in recent years, has only had 6 different teams in the top 4 since summer soccer came in. This year there was a 16 point gap between 4th and 5th and last year it was 19 points between 3rd and 4th.
When it comes to comparing leagues it's pretty difficult, because nobody gets to see lower ranked teams play each other. I would have very little hesitation in saying that if EL teams played Scottish teams, 1st v 1st etc, then the Scottish teams would come out on top in most, if not all of the games (I couldn't see Waterford beating Dunfermline to be honest). Similarly with Scotland and England, the English teams would be well on top in most games.
There's no disgrace in not having as strong a league as another country, the important thing is that we move in the right direction to close the gap. As many before me have said, it's frustrating to see players leaving to play at a lower standard (roughly the lower reaches of SPL, and below championship level in England) rather than stay in the country and have the chance to play in Europe. However, many great players have played in some pretty shíte leagues in return for big paydays so I can't blame a player for going wherever they'll be better paid. At the moment that won't be Ireland unfortunately.
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