Dillon set for move to Falkirk

**obwon** · 01/12/2006, 11:35 AM

Just had a phonecall from a source in Scotland who has confirmed that Sean Dillon may be moving across the water to Falkirk.It hasn't got to negotiations stage just yet but will keep you informed.What do people reckon..good move ..??

**Poor Student** · 01/12/2006, 11:37 AM

They're supposed to be after Quigley too. Falkirk seems to be an Irish destination these days with the likes of Stokes, Cregg, Barrett and O'Donnell. John Hughes is doing well there and likes to play nice football. They're still not that big a club in a Socttish context but it's a better shop window for a bigger move.

**ciaraa** · 01/12/2006, 11:43 AM

disaster. another fine player on his way to that joke of a league.

**Ash** · 01/12/2006, 11:46 AM

I wonder will they start to fly journos and
rent a crowd over from here like Sunderland.

Also, I wonder will Stephen Kenny try to bring
a few players over to Dunfirmline?

**drinkfeckarse** · 01/12/2006, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by ciaraa

disaster. another fine player on his way to that joke of a league.

Every single club in Scotlands top tier has full international players. Even the smallest supported team there has, on average, double the attendance of Irelands best supported club. Lose the Old Firm bias and it's still a better league than the EL.

Those are the facts I'm afraid and that's coming from someone who bums up the EL to anyone who will listen over here in Scotland.

**Poor Student** · 01/12/2006, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by ciaraa

disaster. another fine player on his way to that joke of a league.

If they're a joke of a league then what is the eL?

**pete** · 01/12/2006, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by drinkfeckarse

Every single club in Scotlands top tier has full international players. Even the smallest supported team there has, on average, double the attendance of Irelands best supported club. Lose the Old Firm bias and it's still a better league than the EL.

The lowesr average attendance in the SPL is 4,500 for Inverness. Take away full houses for visit of Old Firm teams & I am sure that drops significantly. Attendances are no guage of quality anyway.

I see bits of the SPL highest sometimes on Setanta & by & large the standard is poor. That is not to say the eL brilliant. Obviously the Premiership is of high standard but for I can't take seriously anhyone who knocks the eL & then watches the SPL are ist of poor enough standard. Irish people who watch the SPL probbaly only watch Celtic & haven't a clue about other teams or players.

**ciaraa** · 01/12/2006, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by Poor Student

If they're a joke of a league then what is the eL?

Competitive

**OneRedArmy** · 01/12/2006, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by drinkfeckarse

Lose the Old Firm bias and it's still a better league than the EL.

Circular reference. If they lost the Old Firm (see Celtic thread on the speech in Dubai) it would be an inferior league. The Old Firm keep it afloat. Only league where the away end is generally the biggest stand in the ground.

**drinkfeckarse** · 01/12/2006, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by pete

The lowesr average attendance in the SPL is 4,500 for Inverness. Take away full houses for visit of Old Firm teams & I am sure that drops significantly. Attendances are no guage of quality anyway.

Flawed argument. It's the same for any league. Do you think City get more for a home game against Shels or Bray? At the end of the day the SPL's lowest average attended club is still twice that of the EL's highest attended club.

Originally Posted by OneRedArmy

Circular reference. If they lost the Old Firm (see Celtic thread on the speech in Dubai) it would be an inferior league. The Old Firm keep it afloat. Only league where the away end is generally the biggest stand in the ground.

If they lost the Old Firm attendences would still be a lot higher than in Ireland. It's a simple fact. Hibs, Hearts and Aberdeen avaerage approx 12,000 for non old firm games. Some would argue that attendences would increase if they lost the Old Firm as the league would be competitive again and teams would have a genuine chance of silverware.

**OneRedArmy** · 01/12/2006, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by drinkfeckarse

If they lost the Old Firm attendences would still be a lot higher than in Ireland. It's a simple fact. Hibs, Hearts and Aberdeen avaerage approx 12,000 for non old firm games. Some would argue that attendences would increase if they lost the Old Firm as the league would be competitive again and teams would have a genuine chance of silverware.

Think about how much money would leave the league and then think about your response again.

The Old Firm keep the League afloat financially.

**Sheridan** · 01/12/2006, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by Poor Student

If they're a joke of a league then what is the eL?

A joke league with fickle supporters crippled by a post-colonial inferiority complex, evidently.

**drinkfeckarse** · 01/12/2006, 1:08 PM

Originally Posted by OneRedArmy

Think about how much money would leave the league and then think about your response again.

The Old Firm keep the League afloat financially.

Please read my post again. It contains my views on what I suspect would happen if the Old Firm left.

**drummerboy** · 01/12/2006, 2:52 PM

There is very little difference between both leagues, apart from the Old Firm. Results have proved this. Full-time pros over there probably get double what they get over here, hence the amount of EL players heading over there. They are also more likely to be spotted by English clubs.

**Fingal hoop** · 01/12/2006, 3:12 PM

the infrastructure in the SPL is of a different level to the crap here in ireland.
The scottish people dont follow a foriegn league en masse like we do here
Morton got more at a recent game than we did in our semi final of the cup
Larrson , gattuso ,di canio ,gravsen have all played or play in the SPL

We need a reality check here, our league is in a terrible state and by slagging the SPL we are fooling ourselves

In regards to the anti-Celtic element of some posts , Celtic fans in general in ireland would have a more positive view of the eircom league than fans of other non Eircom league clubs, there is a large crossover of fans at Rovers

**ciaraa** · 01/12/2006, 3:41 PM

Originally Posted by Fingal hoop

the infrastructure in the SPL is of a different level to the crap here in ireland.
The scottish people dont follow a foriegn league en masse like we do here
Morton got more at a recent game than we did in our semi final of the cup
Larrson , gattuso ,di canio ,gravsen have all played or play in the SPL

We need a reality check here, our league is in a terrible state and by slagging the SPL we are fooling ourselves

In regards to the anti-Celtic element of some posts , Celtic fans in general in ireland would have a more positive view of the eircom league than fans of other non Eircom league clubs, there is a large crossover of fans at Rovers

dont see how slagging scottish league we are fooling ourselves?? just cos i think its a joke doesnt mean i think el is fantastic. just dont like seeing players who I enjoy watching play (not necessarily dillon but lads like wes hoolahan for eg) move there when football wise its definitley a poorer standard (take away old firm obviously). i have wathced some matches (only on setanta mind) and some of the stuff i have seen would make your eyes water! its really poor. just cos they have better stadiums/more fans doesnt mean that the fare will be better (as pete pointed out)
it was 1985 or something, the last time a different team won the league. what kind of competition is that?? hearts are suppsedly the 2nd best team but look how they fared in europe this year! derry would probably have taken them and they only have a fraction of the budget.
infrastructurally (?) scot league is way ahead of ireland but in football terms (which is what my 'joke league' point was aimed at) ireland is definitely ahead of all but 2 of the scottish teams.
oh yeah and cel-tarian fans in my experience of seeing them at friendly games in united park are some of the worst "fans" i have ever had the misfortune to come across. i am sure there are some bona-fide ones in ireland like FH mentions but i have yet to meet them.

**Philly** · 01/12/2006, 5:16 PM

At the end of the day the attitude of most of our players will be that accross the water is the place to be, whether it is the Premiership, Championship, SPL or even the conference. The only league an Irish player wouldn't leave for is the Welsh league.

**gerryscore** · 02/12/2006, 3:29 PM

good move for the lad, wish him all the best. might actually get paid at falkirk

**adamcarr** · 02/12/2006, 3:35 PM

Originally Posted by gerryscore

good move for the lad, wish him all the best. might actually get paid at falkirk

No its not, not at all.

**Patrick Dunne** · 02/12/2006, 3:38 PM

In footballing terms, I'd imagine that any of the top four teams in the EL could and would beat 7/10 EPL sides (Rangers, Celtic, Hearts excepted) in European
competition. The last two contests (Bohs vs Aberdeen, Derry vs Gretna) have resulted in victories for EL sides.

However club infrastructure, stadia and support far bigger in Scotland.