Dundalk win the play-off

**jebus** · 27/11/2006, 8:08 PM

Not a hope in hell the FAI can relegate UCD after finishing 6th in the league and maintain any creditability for this new SuperLeague. I know fans of Galway and all need a little helping hand getting promoted since they couldn't get the job done on the pitch, but any attempt to demote a 6th place Premier league team in place of a team that didn't finish in the top two in the 1st Division will make this new league a laughing stock to all the new fans the FAI are trying to entice.

I don't care about whether or not UCD are less marketable than Galway or not, you can't demote them after the season they have just had, end of story

**Philly** · 27/11/2006, 8:24 PM

100 yards too far! Ha.

The coasters can be printed at under �60 per 1000 through printing firms on the net. You can submit a design and they'll print it on coasters for you. It might catch peoples attention. And no bar turns down free coasters!

Maybe you could organise "cheerleaders" like the "Bohs Babes"?! They had the KCFC crowd laughing all the way to a win when we played them and I've a funny feeling students would be fond of the idea!

**Philly** · 27/11/2006, 8:30 PM

Originally Posted by jebus

Not a hope in hell the FAI can relegate UCD after finishing 6th in the league and maintain any creditability for this new SuperLeague. I know fans of Galway and all need a little helping hand getting promoted since they couldn't get the job done on the pitch, but any attempt to demote a 6th place Premier league team in place of a team that didn't finish in the top two in the 1st Division will make this new league a laughing stock to all the new fans the FAI are trying to entice.

I don't care about whether or not UCD are less marketable than Galway or not, you can't demote them after the season they have just had, end of story

If soccer in this country made sense and teams earned their place in the league by playing football I would totally agree. I do think UCD has potential its just that the student body is a particularly tough crowd to appease and to change the habits of. The fact that they all graduate after 3 or four years, or drop out, doesn't help matters. It means that the club will have to invest lots of time and money into promoting the club every year in order to entice new fans to replace those no longer in the college.

However if the club could develop a sizeable fanbase then the possibilities in terms of advertising revenue for them would be insane. Everybody wants to win over students custom - from bands to condom manufacturers to cults.

**Poor Student** · 27/11/2006, 8:45 PM

Originally Posted by Philly

The coasters can be printed at under �60 per 1000 through printing firms on the net. You can submit a design and they'll print it on coasters for you. It might catch peoples attention. And no bar turns down free coasters!

Philly, I'll look into it. At the end of the day I'm only a volunteer but I'll pass it onto someone.

**pineapple stu** · 27/11/2006, 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by Philly

Get fixtures printed on coasters for the bar and place mats for the canteens.

That's actually a very good idea. Will look into it. Cheers.

Originally Posted by Philly

I believe clubs are being judges on marketability. Am I right?

My point is that "marketability" is different to "marketing". Marketability talks about potential and what you could do - we potentiall have the whole of south Dublin and could get huge crowds out of it - while marketing talks about what you have done - we haven't gotten great crowds.

You're talking about our marketing - our low crowds - what what we're being judged on is marketability - what we "plan" to do, which, as we've seen from Dublin City's UEFA Licence, doesn't actually have to be ultimately carried out.

**DmanDmythDledge** · 27/11/2006, 10:03 PM

Personally I feel that free pints would be better than putting fixtures on coasters.

**Philly** · 28/11/2006, 10:18 AM

Haha reading through my posts I look like a sales rep for an online printing firm!

**Schumi** · 28/11/2006, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by Philly

Maybe you could organise "cheerleaders" like the "Bohs Babes"?! They had the KCFC crowd laughing all the way to a win when we played them and I've a funny feeling students would be fond of the idea!

I'd forgotten about them, they were a good laugh.

Ours could have the advantage of being older than 13 too.

**monkey magic** · 28/11/2006, 3:33 PM

Originally Posted by oriel

Thanks for kind words, you are close, we finished 10th out of 12 that season, (top 9 stayed up + winner of first div + no play off) think we finished a point or was it goal difference behind you in 9th but a massive points gap clear of of the team who came 11th, im sure it was Galway.

cant remember meself if it was one point or goal dif, alls i remember is ye had a terrible first half of the season and a fantastic second half - ye came from nowhere to almost pip us at the post, if memory serves me ye came to the flansiro, with only a couple of games left and thumped us 3-1(??) if the season were one week longer...

Originally Posted by oriel

Anyway no point crying over split milk, our real damage was done seasons 2002/03 and 2003, what a time to have your worst ever seasons in history, think we came 2nd last and 3rd last. A disgrace to all involved.

all the same, the significance of that result, and our subsequent play-off panalty win over harps is not lost on me, for all clubs involved..

**gael353** · 11/12/2006, 10:52 PM

Originally Posted by teckno

Waterford United will be a Premier Division side next year FACT!!.

i could go on quoting for hours but there'd be no point

**dfx-** · 11/12/2006, 11:07 PM

Originally Posted by SeanDrog

Back to the main point about Dundalk - a little fact they seem to ignore - their club agreed to the new structureand selection porcess - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you cannot now cry foul just cause you won a worthless playoff.<<<<<<<<<<<

Now some might argue that they beat Waterford - but so what, they signed up to the new format and they knew at the start of the season that it was a worthless format.

Originally Posted by green-blood

its about applying to a new league, a completely new entity

Well done Dundalk... 2nd is the first loser

Originally Posted by bluemovie

- We were going to be in the new 'Premiership' even if we lost EVERY game this season (I think Mike Kerley set out spoecifically to prove this theory

)

- There is a NEW league next year. Entry to this league is determined by a number of criteria which were set out (vaguely) at the start of the season and which Waterford have attempted to satisfy.

- The play-off was worth something in the region of 10 to 20 of the 1000 entry points.

- This may p*ss people off, but the truth is the play-off was of less consequence than things like the parking and disabled facilities at the RSC.

So could I..

**Jerry The Saint** · 11/12/2006, 11:40 PM

Originally Posted by d f x-

So could I..

So this means that Shamrock were NEVER PROMOTED right

Not as good as NEVER RELEGATED I suppose but it has a nice ring to it.

I'm sure it was a proud moment to be the final winners of the old First Division 'championship' even if it was

of less consequence than things like the parking and disabled facilities at <insert name of rented ground here>

**harpskid** · 12/12/2006, 12:10 AM

Originally Posted by bluemovie

- We were going to be in the new 'Premiership' even if we lost EVERY game this season (I think Mike Kerley set out spoecifically to prove this theory

).

- I repeat: we were godawful this year.....but there was a reason for it - we were remaining within budget and putting a huge effort into preparing the club for next season's Premiership.

As Homer would say..."D'oh!!!"