Rovers in The Herald, again...

**Block G Raptor** · 22/11/2006, 3:51 PM

I am not for one minute saying that what the herald printed is true and I really really hope it's not. If it is then its the most disgusting thing I have heard in 17 years supporting LOI and I hope to god that something is being done about what I'm sure must have been a minority of Scumbags who where singing these sick disgusting retarded chants.*

*this is not just another bohs fan having a go at rovers I would be equally appalled and disgusted to hear these chants coming from any set of supporters bohs inluded

**BohsFans** · 22/11/2006, 5:51 PM

Originally Posted by NY Hoop

The irony of that coming from a club that condones a hooligan group. Herag hates us and this story is timely given our High Court appearance friday.

Anyone who believes that we had a Crocodile Dundee figure with a 6 inch blade in his pocket in Cobh should go back to drinking glue.

In fairness most decent EL fans here know what they print is fiction. A prime example is that we started the love ulster riots.

From todays star: "Reports that Shamrock Rovers fans chanted about child killer Wayne O'Donoghue were branded "outrageous rubbish" by club officials last night. A downmarket evening paper reported that the club's supporters chanted that "Wayne O'Donoghue is a Hoop" because he killed "Corkies" during a game against Cobh Ramblers. It was alleged that "a small group of supporters" used the death of Robert Holohan to taunt home fans at a game".

Anyone who thinks the herag is a responsible paper only needs to take a look at todays front cover.

KOH

you have some knack of not answering a thing I post, but yet still quote it. Unbelievable, but no more than I expected really.

**Raheny Red** · 22/11/2006, 6:03 PM

Abbeylara is directed at the incompetence of the guards and not poor aul' Johnny Carthy.

**fbtn** · 22/11/2006, 6:30 PM

It is blatantly obvious that the paper does have an agenda against Rovers.

Anyone with a shred of sense would see that if this chanting did happen, it would have been plastered all over this forum that very night and would be a 20 pager by now.

On a side issue - Rovers do have a bad reputation. But going by experience and not over-sensationalised crap from tabloids and the net - Bohs, Dundalk, Sligo and Shels are all of muchness if not worse. Have witnessed trouble in all their grounds and each set of fans have caused problems in Finn Park.

Shels and Bohs fans went at it on the pitch at Tolka after the game on Friday night.... read their respective forums. Yet I haven't seen or heard a word of it anywhere else.

All I'm saying is, before people come over all self-righteous over something that in all reality is not even true and move on to Shamrock Rovers list of crimes against humanity - quite a few clubs have their own selection of idiots. I've heard one or two racist outbursts by individuals in Finn Park over the years but it hardly makes us the Northern Branch of Combat 18.

Try and keep things in perspective lads instead of looking for cheap-shots at other clubs.

**LukeO** · 22/11/2006, 6:35 PM

Originally Posted by Raheny Red

Abbeylara is directed at the incompetence of the guards and not poor aul' Johnny Carthy.

You've just defended the indefensible. It's a disgusting chant. I'll remember this the next time you come on our message board lecturing us on our fans behaviour. If you had any credibility, you've just lost it...

"is this the way to abbeylara
he only wanted 20 marlboro
and to see his sister tara
but they shot him anyway
Sha la la la la la la la BANG BANG"

Sick.

**Raheny Red** · 22/11/2006, 8:19 PM

Originally Posted by Luke O'Riordan

You've just defended the indefensible. It's a disgusting chant. I'll remember this the next time you come on our message board lecturing us on our fans behaviour. If you had any credibility, you've just lost it...

"is this the way to abbeylara
he only wanted 20 marlboro
and to see his sister tara
but they shot him anyway
Sha la la la la la la la BANG BANG"

Sick.

I'm just stating it's directed at the guards as I'm sure many people on here would have thought it was gloryfing the killing of Mr. Carthy.

I see you are learning the words already, good lad

**Comic Book Guy** · 22/11/2006, 8:27 PM

To get back to the original part of this thread I was at the game in Cobh last Saturday night and I did not hear any of the chanting that is alleged to have come from the Rovers fans. I guess if other Cobh fans had heard it then it probably would have been a topic of conversation around the town. The first I heard of it was on this thread.

**micls** · 22/11/2006, 8:27 PM

Originally Posted by Raheny Red

I'm just stating it's directed at the guards as I'm sure many people on here would have thought it was gloryfing the killing

Surely you dont think that justifies chanting about a mans death....regardless of who its aimed at its ick and not something to be singing about at football matches ffs

**exiled_gufc_fan** · 22/11/2006, 10:21 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

LOL at the Star calling another paper down market. They're fully entitled to but still...

And one of the same stable of Independent News & Media papers too! (Although the Star is a joint venture I believe)

**exiled_gufc_fan** · 22/11/2006, 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by fbtn

All I'm saying is, before people come over all self-righteous over something that in all reality is not even true and move on to Shamrock Rovers list of crimes against humanity - quite a few clubs have their own selection of idiots. I've heard one or two racist outbursts by individuals in Finn Park over the years but it hardly makes us the Northern Branch of Combat 18.

Try and keep things in perspective lads instead of looking for cheap-shots at other clubs.

Hear, hear.

**Frankfurt Hoop** · 22/11/2006, 11:19 PM

Let's get a grip here. Two or three mongs out of a crowd of nearly two thousand think up a chant that they think is clever and witty. Every time they rehearse it they're told to STF Up. Result - 99% of the attendance are totally unaware of this chant until it's published days later in the evening herald in a story that appallingly resurrects a terrible tragedy for a family in Midleton.

That it merits five pages on this forum shows that for the most part this place is fast becoming redundant.

One of the great things about football, and by that I mean supporting your club as opposed to a TV programme, is that it brings together (though not always in harmony) people of all classes, creeds, tastes, educational attainments, etc. We are united in a common passion. It is one of the few levellers in our society. No wonder that the O'Reillys hate it! Rovers aren't the only club to have been tarred by the herald this year, we're just the flagship.

**Dr.Nightdub** · 23/11/2006, 12:05 AM

Next Wednesday's Herald could have the headline "Rovers fans kidnap ballboy for use in human sacrifice" and some people here would STILL go "Typical Rovers". The problem is that it'd never even occur to those people to go "Typical Herald".

The National Enquirer must shift more units than we thought if Tony O'Reilly is trying to steal their turf.

**swano** · 23/11/2006, 1:04 AM

Obviously the Herag don't even think for a second about the hurt an article like this can cause the families involved in the death yet they bring it up anyway, without evidence.

Rovers fans have been involved in plenty of trouble at games over the years but I don't think it's substantially more than many other clubs.

It's hard enough to attract new fans to games without clubs being attacked in the papers over nothing incidents.

**DvB** · 23/11/2006, 8:39 AM

Originally Posted by fbtn

It is blatantly obvious that the paper does have an agenda against Rovers.

Anyone with a shred of sense would see that if this chanting did happen, it would have been plastered all over this forum that very night and would be a 20 pager by now.

On a side issue - Rovers do have a bad reputation. But going by experience and not over-sensationalised crap from tabloids and the net - Bohs, Dundalk, Sligo and Shels are all of muchness if not worse. Have witnessed trouble in all their grounds and each set of fans have caused problems in Finn Park.

Shels and Bohs fans went at it on the pitch at Tolka after the game on Friday night.... read their respective forums. Yet I haven't seen or heard a word of it anywhere else.

All I'm saying is, before people come over all self-righteous over something that in all reality is not even true and move on to Shamrock Rovers list of crimes against humanity - quite a few clubs have their own selection of idiots. I've heard one or two racist outbursts by individuals in Finn Park over the years but it hardly makes us the Northern Branch of Combat 18.

Try and keep things in perspective lads instead of looking for cheap-shots at other clubs.

Excellent post!

Koh

**Louth4sam** · 23/11/2006, 9:06 AM

Originally Posted by fbtn

On a side issue - Rovers do have a bad reputation. But going by experience and not over-sensationalised crap from tabloids and the net - Bohs, Dundalk, Sligo and Shels are all of muchness if not worse. Have witnessed trouble in all their grounds and each set of fans have caused problems in Finn Park.

Just out of interest what trouble have you ever witnessed inside oriel park and when have our fans ever caused trouble in finn park???

**Jerry The Saint** · 23/11/2006, 9:43 AM

Originally Posted by Dr.Nightdub

Next Wednesday's Herald could have the headline "Rovers fans kidnap ballboy for use in human sacrifice"

I don't think even the Herald would print such a blatant lie (it wasn't a ballboy, it was a mascot).

**passerrby** · 23/11/2006, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by Dr.Nightdub

Next Wednesday's Herald could have the headline "Rovers fans kidnap ballboy for use in human sacrifice" and some people here would STILL go "Typical Rovers". The problem is that it'd never even occur to those people to go "Typical Herald".

bloody typical rovers leave the ballboys alone

**WeAreRovers** · 23/11/2006, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by fbtn

It is blatantly obvious that the paper does have an agenda against Rovers.

Anyone with a shred of sense would see that if this chanting did happen, it would have been plastered all over this forum that very night and would be a 20 pager by now.

On a side issue - Rovers do have a bad reputation. But going by experience and not over-sensationalised crap from tabloids and the net - Bohs, Dundalk, Sligo and Shels are all of muchness if not worse. Have witnessed trouble in all their grounds and each set of fans have caused problems in Finn Park.

Shels and Bohs fans went at it on the pitch at Tolka after the game on Friday night.... read their respective forums. Yet I haven't seen or heard a word of it anywhere else.

All I'm saying is, before people come over all self-righteous over something that in all reality is not even true and move on to Shamrock Rovers list of crimes against humanity - quite a few clubs have their own selection of idiots. I've heard one or two racist outbursts by individuals in Finn Park over the years but it hardly makes us the Northern Branch of Combat 18.

Try and keep things in perspective lads instead of looking for cheap-shots at other clubs.

Typical bloody Rovers sympathiser.

KOH