Rovers in The Herald, again...

**Peadar** · 21/11/2006, 4:32 PM

Anyone see the Herald?
Story about Rovers singing 'Wayne O'Donoghue is a hoop, is a hoop, is a hoop, he kills corkies', down in Cobh on Saturday.

**R�iteoir** · 21/11/2006, 4:45 PM

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**passerrby** · 21/11/2006, 4:57 PM

well done rovers fans another poor day in the history of a great club

**NY Hoop** · 21/11/2006, 5:00 PM

If you believe this story I feel sorry for you. Nothing of the nature of this song was sung at the game. And nice of the herag to blame us for the dundalk fiasco. All they had to do was ring the cops in dundalk to find out the true story.

Made up stories has been their agenda against the club for a number of years now. What goes around comes around. Same muppet who wrote this garbage claimed that some first team Rovers player had glassed a barman. The kid had played for the U15 team.

KOH

**hoopy** · 21/11/2006, 5:09 PM

Originally Posted by NY Hoop

If you believe this story I feel sorry for you. Nothing of the nature of this song was sung at the game. And nice of the herag to blame us for the dundalk fiasco. All they had to do was ring the cops in dundalk to find out the true story.

Made up stories has been their agenda against the club for a number of years now. What goes around comes around. Same muppet who wrote this garbage claimed that some first team Rovers player had glassed a barman. The kid had played for the U15 team.

KOH

Take my advice, don't reply to threads like these, as the same fools will always want to put the boot into Rovers whatever the herald says

**dcfcsteve** · 21/11/2006, 5:24 PM

I've no idea of the truth or otherwise behind this story, so won't comment on it any further than to say it obviously doesn't look good for Rovers.

Regardless of its truth - this is the latest in a series of newspaper reports/artciles presenting Rovers in a bad light. If such stories do contain little or no truth, then why isn't Shamrock Rovers doing something about it ? If the press are openly misrepresenting or lying in their reports, the Press Complaints people are there to refer them to. There's even legal address for cases that are clearly unfair/untrue/misrepresented..

Has the 400 club even asked for a meeting with the Sports Editor or Head Editor of the Herald to talk to them about this ? Surely somethign as simple as this to convey the club's concerns about what is being written and about a percieved agenda would be an obvious step to take ?

**forza** · 21/11/2006, 5:28 PM

Do you or do you not sing songs about Pierce McAuley being a hoop?

Nice song that praising the actions of a murder

Pattern emerging??

Although the WOD 'song' I think no set of fans could go that low taking into account its the Hearld (probably bull****)...then again dont think they could go that low to make something like that up or have the brain to? Or could they...

**Anto McC** · 21/11/2006, 5:29 PM

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

I've no idea of the truth or otherwise behind this story, so won't comment on it any further than to say it obviously doesn't look good for Rovers.

Regardless of its truth - this is the latest in a series of newspaper reports/artciles presenting Rovers in a bad light. If such stories do contain little or no truth, then why isn't Shamrock Rovers doing something about it ? If the press are openly misrepresenting or lying in their reports, the Press Complaints people are there to refer them to. There's even legal address for cases that are clearly unfair/untrue/misrepresented..

Has the 400 club even asked for a meeting with the Sports Editor or Head Editor of the Herald to talk to them about this ? Surely somethign as simple as this to convey the club's concerns about what is being written and about a percieved agenda would be an obvious step to take ?

Great Post. If it is lies,then Rovers have rights.

**soccerc** · 21/11/2006, 5:29 PM

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

why isn't Shamrock Rovers doing something about it ? If the press are openly misrepresenting or lying in their reports, the Press Complaints people are there to refer them to. There's even legal address for cases that are clearly unfair/untrue/misrepresented..

Has the 400 club even asked for a meeting with the Sports Editor or Head Editor of the Herald to talk to them about this ? Surely somethign as simple as this to convey the club's concerns about what is being written and about a percieved agenda would be an obvious step to take ?

There is no press complaints commission/procedure in the Republic of Ireland so they can say what they like.

**Louth4sam** · 21/11/2006, 5:31 PM

As much as i hate rovers i have to stick up for them on this one. No cobh fans have mentioned anything at all about this on here so therefore none of them heard it or knows anybody that heard it. At most id say it was a small handfull of people saying it if at all

**Dodge** · 21/11/2006, 5:35 PM

I knew Rovers fans were behind that killing, I knew it...

**dcfcsteve** · 21/11/2006, 5:35 PM

Originally Posted by soccerc

There is no press complaints commission/procedure in the Republic of Ireland so they can say what they like.

Is there no right to redress bar the courts then ?

Shocking lack of accountability if there isn't.

**Passive** · 21/11/2006, 5:43 PM

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

Is there no right to redress bar the courts then ?

Shocking lack of accountability if there isn't.

You can only go to the courts if you have been defamed. The Herald have written 'fans attached to Rovers did x and y' but that doesn't actually defame Rovers as a club.

**pete** · 21/11/2006, 5:43 PM

Originally Posted by soccerc

There is no press complaints commission/procedure in the Republic of Ireland so they can say what they like.

Is McDowell bringing that in soon?

**hoops1** · 21/11/2006, 5:48 PM

Im impressed that other clubs fans havent jumped straight in and hammered
us about it and have taken a measured view.
As one of the few sober hoops in the ground I can honestly say I never heard
this chant. I obviously wasnt in all places at all times but If Scum did sing
it then they really need to take a long walk off a short pier.
I dont believe it happened because of the lies previously told re the Dundalk incidents which I witnessed. I genuinely believe there is an anti Rovers agenda in that paper.

**dcfcsteve** · 21/11/2006, 5:55 PM

Originally Posted by Hooperatzi

on what grounds?

if we could prove the fans, not the club, were damaged monetarially by the article, we would have to prove the song wasnt sung, which is the 26c libel process.

remember the nazi front page? not a thing the club could do about it as the article is about unnamed fans.

you can also write what you like about the dead, as their family cannot sue on their behalf.

if the cobh fans heard this song being sung, they would be all over it...

its another lie from a paper that has consistantly been out to get us, and what do they write about when we get silverware? some song that no-one heard at the game. predictible tosh

I'm not suggesting the courts in this instance, but I'm amazed and genuinely disappointed that there is no sort of Press Complaints Commission in the Republic to deal with this sort of thing. Shocking gap in consumer protection rules.

Have the 400 Club askled the Herald for a meeting over these ongoing stories, or will they just moan and let them happen regardless ? There is nothing to lose in asking and hopefully having a mature and professional meeting with the paper about perceived bias.

**forza** · 21/11/2006, 6:02 PM

Originally Posted by Hooperatzi

mcliar tried to take on the herald, the sports desk have no control over the 'news' desk, so what are out options. ban them from games? if you keep issuing denials, all you are doing is giving credibility to the stories.

while the song suggested is sick, its not unique for horrible songs to be sung at football. why bring it up even if it had happened? its not even newsworthy if it had happened. riot cops and horses had to keep shels and bohs fans apart, yet not a word in the press.

we sell papers, and any old crap will be thrown at us.

No you just fill empty gaps

**MrJoeSoap** · 21/11/2006, 6:07 PM

Can't take this report too seriously without any attributed quotes, typical Herald type stuff.

Was there really any sort of a pitch invasion and confrontation at the end of the game?

**dcfcsteve** · 21/11/2006, 6:10 PM

Originally Posted by Hooperatzi

mcliar tried to take on the herald, the sports desk have no control over the 'news' desk, so what are out options.

Well - try arranging a meeting with the New Editor to discuss the whole situation, like I've suggested.

What have you got to lose ?

**WeAreRovers** · 21/11/2006, 6:12 PM

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

Is there no right to redress bar the courts then ?

Shocking lack of accountability if there isn't.

Correct, we've taken plenty of legal advice most of which amounts to "you haven't a hope against Tony O'Reilly."

We badly need a non-statutory Press Council to stop the Herald in particular and the other rags from printing this nonsense and even more dangerous stuff like the coverage of the Rachel O'Reilly murder.

Instead of a Press Council Herr McDowell is introducing stringent privacy laws which will hinder journalists going about their daily work and yet will not help the man in the street gaining redress from these lowlifes

The only consolation is that the way the Herald is losing sales Shamrock Rovers will be around long after they're gone.

KOH