Cup Final ticket Sales - Update

**OneRedArmy** · 30/11/2006, 9:44 PM

Originally Posted by garyderry

Absolute Rubbish, i have never heard so much elitist garbage in my life

how on earth can we increase our fanbase, if we cant attract additional support for the FAI cup final how can we increase it for a league game against Bray

Our cup final attendences in the past have had no impact whatsoever on our league form. You might not like that fact, but its true.

There is a insignificant correlation between going to one match a decade and becoming a regular attender at games. FACT.

**OneRedArmy** · 30/11/2006, 9:55 PM

Originally Posted by barney

100% correct. How on earth do we expect to increase the crowds.

By attracting some of the 3-5,000 Derry fans who are going to the final who don't regualrly go to the Brandywell.

Originally Posted by barney

People aren't going to go and watch St Pat's/Derry v Waterford/Bray.

Well then why are we trying to attract them?

Originally Posted by barney

This game is a showpiece and should be used as a marketing tool.

Agree. It SHOULD have been used as a marketing tool.

Originally Posted by barney

This is the most coverage we get in the national media throughout the seasnon.

If you define national as Irish Republic, then yes you are correct. However the local NI and English papers, which dominate the market it Derry (like it or not) gave infinitely more coverage to our European run.

Originally Posted by barney

To confine the FAI Cup final to the die-hards is the type of insular attitude that is killing the league.

You can't kill something that has been dead for a long time. There are a lot of defendants in the death of EL football, approximately 4 million at last count.

Originally Posted by barney

I can see where the original poster was coming from, but the post was misguided at best.

It may have been misguided but it wasn't misinformed.

**barney** · 30/11/2006, 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by OneRedArmy

By attracting some of the 3-5,000 Derry fans who are going to the final who don't regualrly go to the Brandywell.

Well we agree on that then.

Originally Posted by OneRedArmy

Well then why are we trying to attract them?

My point was that games against Waterford and Bray aren't going to attract them into the eircom League. If something like the cup final gets them in, then perhaps they may get into the habit of going and that's when you'll see the casual fan at the lesser games. At least in an ideal world.

Originally Posted by OneRedArmy

If you define national as Irish Republic, then yes you are correct. However the local NI and English papers, which dominate the market it Derry (like it or not) gave infinitely more coverage to our European run.

Fair point. My post was clumsily phrased. However, given that the vast majority of clubs are in the Irish Republic this is an ideal opportunity to capitalise on the publicity down here, which is at it's peak for the season.

Originally Posted by OneRedArmy

You can't kill something that has been dead for a long time. There are a lot of defendants in the death of EL football, approximately 4 million at last count.

Already dead???? I don't think so. Perhaps the game on this island isn't in the healthiest of shape but to write it off like that is being a bit pessimistic. If you really believe that, why do you bother going to the games?

**dcfcsteve** · 01/12/2006, 2:56 AM

Originally Posted by Dodge

The word you're looking for is "deprived", steve...

No - rough as fcuk will do it....

garyderry · 01/12/2006, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by OneRedArmy

Our cup final attendences in the past have had no impact whatsoever on our league form. You might not like that fact, but its true.

There is a insignificant correlation between going to one match a decade and becoming a regular attender at games. FACT.

im referring to your preference for ONLY regulars to turn up for cup finals

i think that is an elitist rediculous comment, any right minding person would WISH (not think it will happen) but wish that landsdowne was packed to the rafters every cup final

**OneRedArmy** · 01/12/2006, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by garyderry

im referring to your preference for ONLY regulars to turn up for cup finals

i think that is an elitist rediculous comment, any right minding person would WISH (not think it will happen) but wish that landsdowne was packed to the rafters every cup final

Here's what I said as a reminder

Originally Posted by ME

Again, I'm bemused by people's enthusiasm for a 25,000 crowd (1000% more than the better teams get week on week). I'd much rather us add 500-1000 regular attenders rather than drag up 10,000 people who go to a game once a decade.

That doesn't equate to "a preference for ONLY regulars to turn up for cup finals" and has absolutely nothing to do with "elitism".

It simply means I struggle to see why people get so excited by huge cup final crowds when, based on past finals, there is zero correlation between getting a big cup final crowd and improving league attendences.

**wws** · 01/12/2006, 11:26 AM

back on topic

14,000 tickets sold in TOTAL by Thursday night

that too me is a healthy sales

definitely pick up a lot on the day as that is the Irish mentality - this crowd could very well exceed expectations now

**wws** · 01/12/2006, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by barney

100% correct. How on earth do we expect to increase the crowds. People aren't going to go and watch St Pat's/Derry v Waterford/Bray. This game is a showpiece and should be used as a marketing tool. This is the most coverage we get in the national media throughout the seasnon.

To confine the FAI Cup final to the die-hards is the type of insular attitude that is killing the league.

I can see where the original poster was coming from, but the post was misguided at best.

agree 100% with One Red Army

the FAI cup final bears no correlation between league games - its an "event" and the success rate in converting the event junkies into becoming league goers is poor - not because it hasnt been attempted - its just event junkies by their nature arent interested in the week in week out brand of match going - for them its all about the "one off" big occassion

**TonyD** · 01/12/2006, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

No - rough as fcuk will do it....

Wheras the Brandywell is like a scene from "Little House on the Prairie" ?

**wws** · 01/12/2006, 1:49 PM

its no co incidence that millionaire left wing socialist long haired dude Mick Wallace opened his second fancy pants Italian Restaurant in the People's Free Republic of Inchicore

new hotel development on the way too

Read it and weep Derry!

garyderry · 01/12/2006, 2:04 PM

Originally Posted by wws

its no co incidence that millionaire left wing socialist long haired dude Mick Wallace opened his second fancy pants Italian Restaurant in the People's Free Republic of Inchicore

new hotel development on the way too

Read it and weep Derry!

yeah and the food is feckin great too

**forza** · 01/12/2006, 7:24 PM

Some Ennis Saints will be at the game

**sadloserkid** · 02/12/2006, 1:56 PM

slk will even be at the game if all goes to plan!

**steno** · 02/12/2006, 6:43 PM

According to the FAI website derry are brining down 10,000 fans tomorrow
http://www.fai.ie/index.php?option=c...k=view&id=1513

So 14,000 or a lot more than that at the game would not be a surprise if that is the case.

**oriel** · 02/12/2006, 8:18 PM

Good luck Derry tomorrow. Great supporters, well run club, sorry Pats, but I have to support my northern cousins in this one.

2002 Cup final, Dlk v Bohs, at least two busloads of derry fans pulled into Tolka to support us, they played Limerick in the Lge cup final first or 2nd leg the prev night, a fantastic gesture.

**BohsFans** · 03/12/2006, 12:39 AM

Where will next seasons final be played?

Croker?

**p�l-dcfc** · 03/12/2006, 1:29 AM

Originally Posted by BohsFans

Where will next seasons final be played?

Croker?

Jesus that is a terrifying prospect. A 90,000 (or whatever) stadium with 14,000 in it. Scary.

Next years final should be in the wonderful tallaghtfornia if it's finished.

Or in the Brandywell. Actually, all finals should be in the Brandywell. Forever.

**Poor Student** · 03/12/2006, 7:40 AM

Originally Posted by p�l-dcfc

Next years final should be in the wonderful tallaghtfornia if it's finished.

If/when Tallaght is ever completed I think it's to be done in phases like Athlone. I don't think it'll be in any state for a cup final for some years. I think Tolka (should Shels still be in it) and Turners Cross will be the only semi-fit stadiums for a cup final next season and maybe Dalymount at a stretch.