QuotePats lost point due to an unregistered player.Originally Posted by pete
McGuinness was suspended...
Yeah, but Cork never signed Alan Cawley in contentious circumstances.
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Pats lost point due to an unregistered player.
McGuinness was suspended...
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and Shaun Hargan wasn't suspended, as no one in the country knew he had been, including Ollie.
As Irishmen we dilute our sense of nation by depending on the English to bring us our balls
lofty what in the name of jaysus are you talking about ?
Im comparing the McGuinness situation to that of Marney. Chalk and cheese and unfair to group them together. All clubs just months previous voted in an automatic 3 point deduction in the case of an unregistered player.
Thats why Pats lost the points...
Not Ollies fault Pat Dolan didnt do his job properly.
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So he was wrong about that then, wasn't he ? The rule was there, the precedent was there, and yet Ollie, as usual screamed blue bloody murder because it suited his cause. He is a hypocrite, and a stain on the league. And I'm sick of people making excuses for him on the basis that "He's Shelbourne through and through... eats, drinks and sleeps Shelbourne.....passionate about his club, etc etc etc. All irrelevant. He is a bully and a thug, that's why people hate him.
Out for a spell, got neglected, lay on the bench unselected.
To be fair nothing. Cork were equally idiots for doing that. Doesn't take away from Ollie being an idiot for complaining here.
Yeah, but Cork never signed Alan Cawley in contentious circumstances.
Not quite sure where you're going with that?
Too true Gareth, if only because in the one man club that is Shels, none of your fans have a clue what is really going on behind the scenes.
Whilst Ollie may be seen as the saviour by some, his approach to running the club (his way or no way) has resulted in what appears to be a very bleak future.
Who in their right mind would invest in Shels with Ollie at the helm?
You go out and offer these guys top money to join your club, well you can't really complain when a bigger sugar daddy comes along with a bigger wallet, of course they are going to jump ship.
And to someone elses point its hard to blame them considering their limited shelf life but it can be soul destroying for the fans.
"Must you tell me all your secrets when it's hard enough to love you knowing nothing."
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I believe we complained about 5 weeks without a home game. This hits fulltime pro teams harded that part-time clubs. By any reasonable estimation thats 100k overgoings with very little coming in. Clubs can only do some much to budget for that.
Not scaremongering. Just making an obsevation based on what little I know about players. At the end of the day they have the same bills to pay as we do. Players don't want uncertainty. They want to be able to play ball without having to worry about what goes on behind the scenes and where the money's coming from.
If Ollie hadn't got the flood and the fact that they only had 5 home games out of eleven (I thought clubs always played home and away alternatively) to blame, who would he blame.
You actually believe that?
Talk about delusion.
He wanted the Bohs job and now he wants the Derry job...
And you actually believe that do you? Hilarious the way some people give their opinions on here as if they're facts known to everyone
Do I know for a FACT that Nutsy wanted the Bohs job? Yes, I do.
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The flood was not covered by insurance apparently under the Act Of God clause. It cost Shels about €250,000 to put right.I think that would put many organisations into the sh1t financially to be suddenly faced with an extra
€250,000 in overheads. And one of the club offices was flooded which probably contained some financial records etc., a lot of which may well have been washed away. But I agree with you on the home games thing.
You only get 6 games max at home in your first 11 at the best of times.
Regarding the flooding of Tolka.
"Three seasons ago, he also introduced a pay structure that enabled the playing squad to all go full time.
But despite this, Shels' gate receipts are still only €400,000 a year - enough to cover just a fifth of its annual overheads. Byrne's critics complain that he has badgered and harried the FAI into giving more money to the club.
Byrne possesses a remarkable ability to extract money for the Shels cause. He received a substantial sum from the FAI last year (2003) to pay for the damage caused by a massive flood at Tolka Park last year.
Accolade, one of the companies behind Shelbourne, received €680,000 in 2000 from former Fianna Fail sports minister Jim McDaid to redevelop the West Stand. It is not clear how much money passes through Shelbourne, as Accolade is exempt from filing accounts because it is not trading for members' gain."
From the Sunday Business Post in August 2004.
http://archives.tcm.ie/businesspost/...y323316514.asp
Interesting.
With average crowds on only 1,500 & minimum wage bill alone of 1.5m the numbers just don't add up for Shels. can't wait until Shels try to limit wages to 65% of turnover as seems at the moment wages running at conservative 200% of turnover (based on 1m loss from 2005 season). Ronan Seery was just wannabe Ollie Byrne.
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