Andy Reid's position

**Dr. Ogba** · 16/11/2006, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by onenilgameover

I thought reid dictated most of what happened last night and he was moving far too slowly. he didnt have a bad game he just looked like he could be moving onto the ball instead of standing still while recieving it. wont be able to do that against any other team in the group..

This is a fair enough point but what do you want him to do when there's not enough movement around him? Too often our players are static when we have the ball so our play is always slowed down. I'm definitely looking at the rest of the midfield in this regard, not enough people making off the ball runs to create space...

**Billsthoughts** · 16/11/2006, 11:53 AM

Hes not a poor tackler as in he doesnt put them in...he is a poor tackler in the way he is fond of the oul hack.

**eirebhoy** · 16/11/2006, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by Billsthoughts

Hes not a poor tackler as in he doesnt put them in...he is a poor tackler in the way he is fond of the oul hack.

I'm sorry but you'll never persuade me that Scholes is better than Reid at doing the dirty work.

Around this time last season Reid was probably in the top 20 tacklers in the premiership (until his injury anyway) and that's playing on the left wing.

**Soko** · 16/11/2006, 12:18 PM

So people are now making comparisons bewteen Andy Reid and Paul Scholes after a game against San Marino?

He looked like he was just shifting the ball for no reason last night, nowhere near direct enough. Still has an awful lot to prove

**drinkfeckarse** · 16/11/2006, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by eirebhoy

Fair enough but why do you think Carsley-Reid wouldn't work against a decent standard of opposition?

I never said they wouldn't. Good partnership on paper. I was just commenting that Reid was not in Scholes league yet. You gave the partnership example!

**eirebhoy** · 16/11/2006, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by drinkfeckarse

I never said they wouldn't. Good partnership on paper. I was just commenting that Reid was not in Scholes league yet. You gave the partnership example!

Ah I agree that Scholes is on a different level to almost every midfielder in the premiership. My point was just a basic reply to dr_peepee who said:
"Still don't think though that as a cetral pairing Carsly and Reid in a 442 would cut it against a better side."

Obviously Carsley is a certain starter for us now so I assumed he meant Reid wouldn't cut it in the centre. I gave Scholes as an example of a player who's doing very well in the centre of a 4-4-2 who is probably no better than Reid defensively.

**drinkfeckarse** · 16/11/2006, 1:11 PM

Oh I see, hadn't read the other post.

**dr_peepee** · 16/11/2006, 2:38 PM

It's all about opinions. I just think that in a five man midfield or out on either side he's not as bound tactically and can be afforded the time and space to play the type of game ,its fair to say we all appreciate,from him.

There's extra responsibilities in the centre and I don't think he has the astuteness defensivly to juggle successfully.

Those on about his tackling, they sound like impressive stats. I wasn't aware of them. I would though like to see some stats from the last 20 minutes of his games which is where I've seen him make unnecessary tackles for club and country.

**eirebhoy** · 18/11/2006, 2:02 PM

I juist seen today's lineups and Reid is partnering Holland in the centre of a 4-4-2, probably for the first time in his club career. This will certainly answer a lot of questions as Charlton are playing 2 proper wingers in Rommedahl and Thomas. I'll be cheering against Reading today anyway.

**Stuttgart88** · 30/11/2006, 3:11 PM

Monday's Daily Mail (I didn't buy it, honest!) wrote a glowing report on Reid, saying that focusing on his shape is stupid and saying Puskas was of the same build. The fans love him at Charlton apparently and it's not like the Mail to single an Irishman out for praise. They did the same about Doyle on the next page, comparing his rise to that of Ian Wright (I suspect this will rankle with CCFC fans though. I take the point but ignorance of eL players can probably be excused in the UK papers in my opinion).

I looked for the article oinline but couldn't find it. The whole article focused on Reid. Now if only the Irish press would ever single out an Irish player in their match reports, no matter how well or badly he played.

**The Legend** · 30/11/2006, 5:08 PM

True about Puskas and Reid, except one is a legend and the other is fat...

Go on ya Legend Reidy... yer better that than fatty Puskas!

**DmanDmythDledge** · 02/12/2006, 2:31 PM

Reid is amongst the goalscorers today. The move to Charlton has certainly seemed to revitalise his career.

**Stuttgart88** · 04/12/2006, 3:13 PM

I just posted this in another thread but every paper I read on Sunday was full of praise for Reid.

**Billsthoughts** · 04/12/2006, 4:16 PM

good to see. hes a class player in my opinion. a real footballer. if maradonna was Irish we would moan abouthim not tracking back.

**hoops1** · 05/12/2006, 9:02 AM

Originally Posted by eirebhoy

If Man U can be so successful with Paul Scholes in midfield then I don't see why not.

To compare Reid to Scholes is a joke
To compare Reid to Puskas is a bigger joke being fat and playing football is where the similarity end
Reid a Real footballer, I give up

**Billsthoughts** · 05/12/2006, 1:00 PM

think the scholes comparison has been explained to death.
it was to do with tackling ability or lack thereof.
I doubt anyone here has seen puskas play.
and I called reid a real footballer as he is good with a football as opposed to players with good "workrate"

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**hoops1** · 05/12/2006, 1:03 PM

Reid = fat Mark Kennedy

**eirebhoy** · 05/12/2006, 1:04 PM

Originally Posted by hoops1

To compare Reid to Scholes is a joke

ffs I'm getting frustrated reading the 3rd or 4th person say this.

Read over the thread to see my response.

Barcelona and Arsenal have been successful playing mainly with 1 striker the last few seasons. There's no reason why the same system wouldn't work for Levski Sofia. Sorry, I shouldn't compare Barcelona with Levski...

As for comparisons with Mark Kennedy. I'm following Reid more than any English based Irish player this season. I'd actually say he's now my favourite player. I just love intelligient players. Mourinho tried to get Duff to play more with his brain and play the intelligient pass, I don't think he's really capable of it. Reid is a class above every attacking Irish player imo when it comes to reading the game.

**hoops1** · 05/12/2006, 1:07 PM

correct you shouldnt

**Billsthoughts** · 05/12/2006, 1:10 PM

jesus hoops1 your in good form today!
dont really agree with the mark kennedy thing. he could play football but was totally headless.
reid could be able to provide that bit of creativity we are looking for to unlock teams and release (insert name of flavour of the month here)