You just spelt it out for me, well done...Originally Posted by greendeiseboy
McGeady did his prospects no harm at all.
I think KK lost the sight out of both eyes in the 2nd half.
I was impressed with Reid's industrious workrate. Maybe he is the best we have got for one of the CM positions. We would have to see him against a better team. Some of his interecepted passes would have been effectivly punished by a better team.
O'Shea, an enigma wrapped in a daydream.
We all wanted to come away from last night uplifted, that after the encouraging display against the czechs that there was a chance that the cyprus game was a one off. that hasnt happened, thats why theres an air of desparation around this morning......... we won 5-0 but the performance didnt match the result... there were too many negatives and now the danger is that cyprus game may not have been a slip up but that there will be more results like that to come
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I think you're right there about lacking confidence. I was on the sideline, with an unobstructed view and saw the goal as Reid saw it in the second half, where he had a great chance to shoot, but instead, turned and played it out to Finnan.
Have Boot Disk, will travel
Classic example of the glass being half empty....I think the performance did match the result, if we had of played better we could have won by 10...., imo the game and result went as expected, i don't think you can take too much out of the game either way, positives being we got to play both McShane and Dunne together, and Keane and Doyle got another game together. Not sure what happened Kilbane in the second half.., Duff had a decent game, and Reid did ok. In all I thought our build up play was slow and laboured, It was clear that anytime we attacked down the flanks we got some joy, but we didn't exploit them quick enough or often enough.
If you turn up and put in performance after performance for your country that is devoid of quality and effort then yes, you will eventualy get booed. The game is up for this fraud. **** off back to Manchester and don't come back
How can you blame O'Shea for being bloody picked?
Are you a bit slow? I blame him for pathetic performances with zero passion and showing a distain for the shirt
Soko - I have to put my Mod hat on and tell you to attack the post, not the poster. Comments like that are going a bit far.
Anyway, O'Shea is trying his best for Ireland. He is giving 100% whether you think so or not. I feel really sorry for a player who gets booed just for being a poor player when it's the managers fault for picking him.
Last edited by eirebhoy; 16/11/2006 at 12:35 PM.
Thought overall the game plan seemed to be wrong. We passed the ball, worked it slowly out to the wings and put in a cross, by which time the Sammarinese had time to get back, catch their breath and regroup. Their keeper was useless, but we hardly bothered with a pop from distance. Thought the play was far too slow, to be honest, although it was never going to affect the final score.
Was impressed with McShane in the second half - whether through being told or through his own initiative, he was basically playing attacking mid for the second half and doing an OK job at it too - was up for everything and went past two players before being fouled for the penalty.
Duffer had a decent game, as was to be expected - San Marino couldn't cope with him and he went past players with ease quite often. Robbie Keane won me a few bob with his hat-trick, so no complaints there.
All in all though, you can't really tell anything from that game.
An EL select 11 would have a good chance of beating the national team now.
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All of this has happened before. All of it will happen again.
Kilbane and O'Shea would not have looked out of place on the San Marino team.
Least deserved hat-trick/MoM I have ever seen. And that chant should not be used for this Keane.
Together with all our hearts.
There's no real value from playing a game like that, other than the obvious three points and a bit of confidence from scoring 5. In terms of learning more about players, it's a waste of time.
I thought everything went through Reid and he worked harder than anyone else on the pitch. He's not Maradona but he can create, which is what we need. I'm not sure where his best position is, though. He was my man of the match.
O'Shea has never once impressed me in a green shirt but talk of petitions are going too far (that's if they were serious) as is booing the bloke. It's up to the manager to drop him and find a better replacement, end of story.
San Marino are probably the weakest team I've seen in Lansdowne. With a population the size of Leitrim's, a good senior team from a local club would have hammered them. So this game tells us nothing really.
Although they drew last night, this is Germany's group, I think. We could make it to second if the big three take enough points off each other and we win every game from here but the loss in Cyprus and the draw with the Czechs at home have probably finished us.
Speaking of Lansdowne, I won't miss the kip! I was too late for the great days and only really started going after Saipan so I don't have too many happy memories of the place. Far too many rainy evenings spent watching a 0-0 draw with Bulgaria or the likes...
I don't think that he does give 100% and that's what p isses everyone off about him. He strolls around the pitch like he's Maradona and when he loses the ball (all the time) he doesn't look like he's bothered. I don't agree with the booing or any petitions but I hope he never wears an Irish jersey again.
Exactly, he doesn't look like he cares because he obviously doesn't have it in his heart. We don't need frauds like him
Last night was International Football fraud. It tells us nothing about Ireland that we wouldnt have learned from a training match.
I've had this rant before but having to play San Marino twice is a waste of everyone's time. The only skill required is can you score against a ten men defnece. As it happens we're not very good at that, we need the game to be stretched so that Duff and Robbie have room to run past players. But then when we play important games (e.g. versus Slovakia) that will be an irrelevnat skill. We may as well have played them at rugby and then complained that Duff is not a very good scrum half.
Strongest available taem vs San Marino but not our strongest.
Our strongest team wont have O'Shea and wont have Andy Reid.
GK: Given
RB: Foley/Finnan/Joey O'Brien
CB: McShane/Dunne
LB: Harte/Finnan
RM: Duff/McGeady
CM: Carsley/Steven Reid
LM: Kilbane/Andy Reid
Strikers: Doyle/Keane
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LESS OF THE BULL NOW!
Won't have Andy Reid in it?? So while everyone excepts that O'Shea has never performed in an Irish shirt and leaves his Man Utd form over there you put in Steven Reid when he is almost as big a culprit in my book.
Massive potential and a great engine, it gets overlooked sometimes that his perfromances for us have only ever been average IMO. If I had to choose one of the two for the centre midfield spot at this moment in time, I'd choose Andy Reid if only for the fact that he has great vision and is better at opening up defences than Steven is.
Different types of players but Andy Reid has been more effective for us.
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I'm not sure S Reid has had the run needed to get into the team, would like to see him play 5-6 consecutive games before we judge. Until he gets that his club form is the best guide we have.
By the way although the return of Carsley is great now if the time to develop his successor, we shouldnt wait for him to retire and have no-one groomed. Best option to me might be Joey O'Brien.
imo our strongest 11, when choosing from a fully fit squad, would be...
GK: Given
RB: Finnan
LB: Harte
CB: Dunne
CB: McShane (If playing regularly for WBA)
RM: A Reid
CM: Carsley
CM: S Reid
LM: Duff
FW: Keane
FW: Doyle
Finnan has to play at right back, it's his best position. Harte is a better option at left back than KK or JOS. His dead ball ability is worth a start. Personally, I think that's a team that can get a result at home to Germany and away to the Czechs...
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