New team in EL from Fingal

**kdjaC** · 15/11/2006, 8:46 PM

Some silly country people here, if this new A league takes off, where do you think all the home grown players that progress tru the EL will come from?

Who gives a **** if its dominated by Dublin clubs like Crumlin, Cherry orchard etc:
Will it not be better for El and irish football these players have a higher standard to play in week in week out?

last season Crumlin Utd sent 19 players to England from 4 different teams, the rest of the players either play LSL or AUL or nothing (actually pats got O Connor) if this A league provides El clubs with players who are good enough does it matter that they are from Dublin?

kdjac

**CollegeTillIDie** · 15/11/2006, 9:55 PM

Why is there no team being proposed for Meath?

Given the population of Cavan is increasing that might be an option!

**strangeirish** · 15/11/2006, 10:01 PM

Originally Posted by CollegeTillIDie

Why is there no team being proposed for Meath?

They keep picking the ball up with their hands!

**Student Mullet** · 16/11/2006, 12:47 AM

Originally Posted by CollegeTillIDie

Why is there no team being proposed for Meath?

Drogheda will be required to enter a reserve team.

**drummerboy** · 16/11/2006, 8:56 AM

Originally Posted by CollegeTillIDie

Why is there no team being proposed for Meath?

Given the population of Cavan is increasing that might be an option!

Parkvilla in Navan have a great set up. They play in Claremount Stadium. Fine dressing rooms and huge complex. However there is a running track around the pitch.

The problem is they are currently sitting bottom of the 3rd tier of LSL.

**onceahoop** · 17/11/2006, 9:53 PM

Shels will become Fingal FC and will have the new club as a feeder. The Southside will be represented by Rovers in Tallaght and the west will have Bohs. You will then have Drogheda, Dundalk, Monaghan, Sligo, Harps, Derry, Galway, Limerick, Cork, Waterford and eventually Mick Wallaces Wexford all with feeder teams in the lower tier. Who'll make the final cut I don't know but when I expressed my scepticism of the FAI to run the EL properly I was told they would (in no uncertain terms).

**CollegeTillIDie** · 18/11/2006, 7:35 AM

Well there's a bit of history attached to Fingal County Council and their interest in the EL.
They were the last sponsors of Home Farm( immediately post the Home Farm Everton era) before they morphed into Dublin City. So that gives you and idea of a) the level of sponsorship which would be available.

Fingal FC ( or as has been posted above, Shelbourne's new identity) would be a much smaller scale operation than any of the so called Bigger Dublin Clubs.

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Originally Posted by drummerboy
Parkvilla in Navan have a great set up. They play in Claremount Stadium. Fine dressing rooms and huge complex. However there is a running track around the pitch.

The problem is they are currently sitting bottom of the 3rd tier of LSL. [/QUOTE]

I believe the Meath and District League were approached with a view to either putting a team representing the League or a new club ala Kildare County into the EL based in Navan some years ago.
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**The Sheliban** · 17/12/2006, 8:04 PM

My editor wants me to do a piece on this. (I write for the Community Voice, local free paper for the Dublin 15 area) Our local SF councillor has come out against the proposal on the grounds that many local clubs have no facilities at all and that this is just an expensive county-branding exercise using money that would be better used at grass-roots level. Have to say, I'm inclined to agree.
Anybody with a quotable view, preferably though not necessarily from the Dublin 15 area, can they pm me?

**Philly** · 17/12/2006, 9:04 PM

I thought only the Star quoted from Foot.ie!

**BohsPartisan** · 18/12/2006, 10:46 AM

I don't like the idea of new clubs. They have no tradition, unless they are formed by a merger of already existing clubs.

**sniffa** · 18/12/2006, 11:17 AM

A state of the art training facility.....based on Ipswich Towns stadium.....
Sounds great but I can see all the GAA clubs in Fingal contacting their solicitors already.

**BohsPartisan** · 18/12/2006, 5:05 PM

Originally Posted by drummerboy

Parkvilla in Navan...

The problem is they are currently sitting bottom of the 3rd tier of LSL.

Well as you can see from this table they have played a lot less games that some of the teams above them:

LSL Senior 1A Sun P W D L F A +/- Pts
Drumcondra 14 8 3 3 28 19 9 27
Newtown Rangers AFC 11 7 3 1 18 14 4 24
Lissadel United 11 6 4 1 18 6 12 22
Leixlip United 9 5 4 0 17 7 10 19
Dalkey United 9 5 2 2 11 7 4 17
St. Mochtas 8 4 3 1 14 8 6 15
Larkview Boys 11 4 2 5 13 12 1 14
Loughshinny United 11 3 5 3 13 14 -1 14
Beggsboro 15 3 4 8 16 25 -9 13
Edenderry Town 9 2 3 4 9 14 -5 9
Whitehall Rangers 7 1 4 2 5 7 -2 7
Trinity S & L 14 1 4 9 13 24 -11 7
Parkvilla 9 1 2 6 9 16 -7 5
Garda 8 1 1 6 10 21 -11 4

**passerrby** · 18/12/2006, 5:12 PM

a bit off track but heard a rumour that shels will be the anchor tenant in abbotstown could this be possible

**Drumcondra Red** · 18/12/2006, 5:13 PM

Originally Posted by BohsPartisan

I don't like the idea of new clubs. They have no tradition, unless they are formed by a merger of already existing clubs.

All clubs have to start somewhere...

**niallsparky** · 18/12/2006, 5:16 PM

There are already more than enough Dublin teams Irish football. This is one reason for our low attendences. Compare it to Manchester for example. About the same population, with only 2 clubs.

**Drumcondra Red** · 18/12/2006, 5:21 PM

Originally Posted by niallsparky

There are already more than enough Dublin teams Irish football. This is one reason for our low attendences. Compare it to Manchester for example. About the same population, with only 2 clubs.

Yeah nice comparison!!!

**HulaHoop** · 18/12/2006, 9:09 PM

Originally Posted by niallsparky

There are already more than enough Dublin teams Irish football. This is one reason for our low attendences. Compare it to Manchester for example. About the same population, with only 2 clubs.

Manchester United
Manchester City
Bolton
Wigan
Oldam Ath
Stockport County
Bury
Rochdale

all within Greater Manchester area.

**stevieontour** · 18/12/2006, 9:22 PM

Originally Posted by passerrby

a bit off track but heard a rumour that shels will be the anchor tenant in abbotstown could this be possible

This would make most Sense for Shels.

Massive Polulation and Bohs moving away from the area.

**incident** · 19/12/2006, 9:09 AM

Originally Posted by niallsparky

There are already more than enough Dublin teams Irish football. This is one reason for our low attendences. Compare it to Manchester for example. About the same population, with only 2 clubs.

That comparison is pointless as the context is totally different.

The City of Manchester (containing 1 professional team) has less than 1% of the population of England. Even Greater Manchester (with 8 professional sides) only contains around 5% of the population.

Dublin City by itself accounts for significantly more than 10% of the population of the country. Include County Dublin, and it rises to more than 25% (and that's before you even add in nearby areas like Kildare, Wicklow, etc).

Sure there's a lot of Dublin sides in the league, but then there's a lot more people in Dublin (and the surrounds) than anywhere else in the country. Having so many Dublin sides is just a consequence of that.