Stan Passing The Buck

**citizenerased** · 09/11/2006, 1:11 PM

I concur with the point that staunton is a clown......

**pete** · 09/11/2006, 1:54 PM

Whatever happened to "i'm the gaffer, the bucks stops with me..."

**drummerboy** · 09/11/2006, 2:21 PM

Every game so far, our man Stan, has managed to confound us all, whether it be squad selection; team selection or his tactical substitutions. I wonder whats in store for us this time. I suppose leaving Kenny out was a surprise; but he then went and alerted everyone in Ireland about the guys marital problems. I'm sure Paddy will thanks his Gaffer

**Stuttgart88** · 09/11/2006, 2:26 PM

I used to complain that Kerr's squad selections were boring & unimaginative so it'd be hypocritical of me to diss Stan's on the basis of surprises.

Some of the inconsistencies are odd alright, but on the whole I don't have too many complaints.

**drinkfeckarse** · 09/11/2006, 2:50 PM

Originally Posted by pete

Whatever happened to "i'm the gaffer, the bucks stops with me..."

You'll hear that when we win a game.

**greendeiseboy** · 09/11/2006, 2:55 PM

here's another one staunton wouldn't put stokes in the A squad because he reckons he's not ready - how then does that explain alan o'brien and terry dixons inclusion in previous squads - the man is a total tw*t and holding every football supporter in the country up to ridicule. get rid of the fool now.

**tetsujin1979** · 09/11/2006, 3:09 PM

Originally Posted by greendeiseboy

how then does that explain alan o'brien and terry dixons inclusion in previous squads

Maybe they were included at the time because there was no B games at that time?

**drinkfeckarse** · 09/11/2006, 3:23 PM

...plus Alan O' Brien is very quick. I mean if that's not good enough for ya..

**Jerry The Saint** · 09/11/2006, 4:07 PM

Everyone make sure to look at the San Marino player's eyes for traces of fear next week. If they're not s***ting it then Staunton will have failed the Delaney test for managerial competency and will have to go.

**Billsthoughts** · 09/11/2006, 4:21 PM

odds on hamilton will mention the occupation of one of the san marino players within five mins of kick off....."and in real life he is actually a post man"

Will be very interesting to see how many we can put past these guys..Would have been a good idea to throw stokes in given he is on form.

**Den Perry** · 09/11/2006, 7:44 PM

Originally Posted by NeilMcD

Comments like this are stupid. The guy goes in goal for Ireland and makes a few mistakes and you are making petty stupid remarks about his personal life.

i cant believe you are criticising this comment....its only a bit of a laugh

**Den Perry** · 09/11/2006, 7:49 PM

Originally Posted by Billsthoughts

odds on hamilton will mention the occupation of one of the san marino players within five mins of kick off....."and in real life he is actually a post man"

Will be very interesting to see how many we can put past these guys..Would have been a good idea to throw stokes in given he is on form.

against cannon fodder like san marino stokes should definitely have been given a chance....i'm not saying keane or doyle should be dropped but he should be in the squad with a view to getting a game

**Den Perry** · 09/11/2006, 7:51 PM

Originally Posted by youngirish

I'm sure he reads these forum messages everyday and will be devastated. Grow up and try climbing out of your own ar*e. I thought it was funny.

staunton will probably call chris tarrant up...seeing as he is resolving his marriage problems

**Billsthoughts** · 09/11/2006, 11:46 PM

Originally Posted by youngirish

Not surprising Kenny's wife done a runner on him. After watching the Holland and Cyprus games it was obvious he couldn't hold onto anything.

great post.
at last a bit of humour in the ireland forum

**greendeiseboy** · 10/11/2006, 8:11 AM

Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

Maybe they were included at the time because there was no B games at that time?

there were under 19 and under 21 games though. staunton hasn't a clue and till he goes we going to have to put up this cr*p.

**Duffman** · 10/11/2006, 9:23 AM

Originally Posted by Den Perry

....i'm not saying keane should be dropped

I am. I'm sick of watching him turn it on for Tottenham and then fail to reproduce in a green shirt. Doyle and A.N.Other up there for me. Maybe its the kick in the arse that Keane needs.

**greendeiseboy** · 10/11/2006, 9:35 AM

keane should at least be dropped for the san marino matches - but who would take his place is the problem - i dont think we have any ready made alternatives at the moment - doyle is not the answer - morrision definitely isn't or lee for that matter - the younger lads aren't ready yet but at least we have some good talent coming through in that department if they can keep up the momentum - but i reckon that's a season or two away

**Stuttgart88** · 10/11/2006, 9:51 AM

I think peope have to remember that Robbie was out of the Spurs team at the tail end of Kerr's last campaign, and his good club form only came during the period when we had no meaningful international games.

Away to Germany we could have had anyone upfront and they wouldn't have had a sniff at goal - the furthest up the pitch we had any possession in was about our half way line, and central midfield was utterly crap in both Germany and Cyprus.

However, in each game so far this campaign Robbie has had one clear cut chance - each with his head.

First minute in Stuttgart where he narrowly missed. Unlucky.
Late in the first half in Cyprus - cushioned header back across goal where he really should have scored.
Late chance against Czechs - great chance. Put off a bit by Douglas' jump, but he really should have anticipated Douglas missing it.

A more clinical header of the ball (Doyle maybe, he's an excellent header) would have scored at least two of these but that's what you get with Robbie.

He had no service whatsoever in our first two games and his all round contribution at home to the Czechs was excellent.

Playing AN Other just to prove a point isn't the right approach. Biting off your nose to spite your face. If you think hisattitude is wrong, a good talking to could sort that out.

**Billsthoughts** · 10/11/2006, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

I think peope have to remember that Robbie was out of the Spurs team at the tail end of Kerr's last campaign, and his good club form only came during the period when we had no meaningful international games.

Away to Germany we could have had anyone upfront and they wouldn't have had a sniff at goal - the furthest up the pitch we had any possession in was about our half way line, and central midfield was utterly crap in both Germany and Cyprus.

However, in each game so far this campaign Robbie has had one clear cut chance - each with his head.

First minute in Stuttgart where he narrowly missed. Unlucky.
Late in the first half in Cyprus - cushioned header back across goal where he really should have scored.
Late chance against Czechs - great chance. Put off a bit by Douglas' jump, but he really should have anticipated Douglas missing it.

A more clinical header of the ball (Doyle maybe, he's an excellent header) would have scored at least two of these but that's what you get with Robbie.

He had no service whatsoever in our first two games and his all round contribution at home to the Czechs was excellent.

Playing AN Other just to prove a point isn't the right approach. Biting off your nose to spite your face. If you think hisattitude is wrong, a good talking to could sort that out.

I disagree. Stokes is scoring goals at club level he should be given a chance. Robbie is never going to score a load of goals. He is a talented footballer but not a great goalscorer. I'd drop him or find another role for him. He put a bit of effort in against the Czechs but he was in no way amazing. Effort should be the minimum requirement. What a player brings after that should determine whether he keeps his place in the team. I do agree we shouldnt be dropping players just for the sake of it but we do have 2 easy games coming up and we should try other options.

**Stuttgart88** · 10/11/2006, 12:05 PM

I'm not actually that fussed who plays against San Marino. Given that Doyle has yet to score an international goal I'd definitely play him. I can also see the merit in giving Doyle & Keane pitch time together to form an understanding & get some confidence. They haven't played together since Stuttgart.

Dropping Robbie, not to make a statement, but to have a look at someone else or to try another idea is an option alright.

The unfortunate thing is that I'd bet Stokes will barely figure on Tuesday because of his Falkirk game on Monday.

But other things being equal, I'd prefer to see him get a full B game than a run out in the full international.

Eddie O'Sullivan was saying during the week that the "F word" was his most important selection criteria: Form.

If you applied this to the soccer team you'd barely be able to put a team out, or at best they'd all be kids.