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    FAI Meeting

    Any update on the meeting between the FAI and Danny Drew?
    Limerick 37, its so shiny and new we dare not take the cover off.

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    The meeting was to do with our licence nothing more.

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    So, any update on the meeting between the FAI and Danny Drew?
    "It's impossible to make a man understand something when his livelihood depends on him not understanding" Upton Sinclair

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    The meeting was to do with our licence nothing more
    Well in the context of things it was a pretty important topic of discussion so can you furnish us with any more additional information aside from the fact it was about the licence.
    Limerick 37, its so shiny and new we dare not take the cover off.

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    I don't know the ins and outs of any meeting but it would be just as handy for next season if the FAI held the lease tbh.

    I mean surely they can't refuse a license to their own ground...................

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lim till i die View Post
    I don't know the ins and outs of any meeting but it would be just as handy for next season if the FAI held the lease tbh.

    I mean surely they can't refuse a license to their own ground...................
    My support for the FAI getting the lease has nothing to do with them granting a license or not. I would prefer the lease to be vested in an organisation like the FAi rather than an individual or a limited company. The latter opens up the possibility that in a few years time that individual gets the hump and decides to hold us to ransom once again - just like Joe.

    The FAI may be incompetent in large measure, however they would not shaft a club.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LFC in Exile View Post
    The FAI may be incompetent in large measure, however they would not shaft a club.
    What about Shamrock Rovers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lim till i die View Post
    What about Shamrock Rovers
    Are you talkign about Miltown? I don't think the FAI shafted Rovers. Kilcoyne shafted Rovers and the FAI was negligent and incompetent - big difference. If anything it should illustrate the imperative of not giving an individual control of the ground of an eL club. Because that individual can do whatever he likes subsequently, and the only response is moral pressure (i.e. no reponse). I don't think the FAI would have sold Miltown with no alternative if it owned it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LFC in Exile View Post
    I don't think the FAI shafted Rovers. Kilcoyne shafted Rovers and the FAI was negligent and incompetent - big difference.
    There's not that big a difference-especially if you're a Rovers fan. Being incompetent and negligent is unacceptable at the best of times-when the governing body of the game does it, it does compare to being shafted by them in my book. They should have been more aware of what Kilcoyne was up to and tried to protect Rovers from it, or helped them more when it did actually happen. Maybe then thay woulldn't have festered as badly as they dd for so long. There is FAI accountability in this issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LFC in Exile View Post
    My support for the FAI getting the lease has nothing to do with them granting a license or not. I would prefer the lease to be vested in an organisation like the FAi rather than an individual or a limited company. The latter opens up the possibility that in a few years time that individual gets the hump and decides to hold us to ransom once again - just like Joe.

    The FAI may be incompetent in large measure, however they would not shaft a club.
    can somebody answer this_what about the money limerick have spent on the ground .Do they get it back or have they been shaged by the fai on that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by football boy View Post
    can somebody answer this_what about the money limerick have spent on the ground .Do they get it back or have they been shaged by the fai on that!
    Well, you'll have to explain to everyone how the FAI shagged limerick? because most think that Joe Young shagged limerick by going back on his word to give limerick the lease. Just eleborate a little thats all

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    Quote Originally Posted by LFC in Exile View Post
    Are you talkign about Miltown?
    Sarcasm Deccie, twas just sarcasm

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    Quote Originally Posted by LFC in Exile View Post
    My support for the FAI getting the lease has nothing to do with them granting a license or not. I would prefer the lease to be vested in an organisation like the FAi rather than an individual or a limited company. The latter opens up the possibility that in a few years time that individual gets the hump and decides to hold us to ransom once again - just like Joe.
    Thats why you get a minimum 25 year lease on the ground.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by PinBallWizard View Post
    Thats why you get a minimum 25 year lease on the ground.....
    You need at least a minimum of 21 years to draw down grants so I would have thought thats obvious

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    Quote Originally Posted by PinBallWizard View Post
    Thats why you get a minimum 25 year lease on the ground.....
    But it doesn't matter what term the lease is if it is given to ABC Ltd which is a private limited company. The shareholders in that company e.g. DD or his buddy then have the ground - not Limerick FC. Now i am not for one second suggesting they would do anything against the club. But things change. 10 years down the line and the area gets developed or rezoned etc. ABC Ltd's shareholders decide to assign the lease to a property development company. This is what happened with Miltown - except Kilcoyne owned the ground outright. Rovers did not own the ground. Now the FAI jumped up and down and every body got very excited but there is nothing legally the FAI could have done. Joe talks about the FAI giving more help - there is no help - Kilcoyne owned it. End of.

    Realistically it is inconceivable that the FAI would have done a Miltown or would sell a football ground for development. That's the difference and despite what Joe says it is the critical difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by football boy View Post
    can somebody answer this_what about the money limerick have spent on the ground .Do they get it back or have they been shaged by the fai on that!
    No they haven't been shagged by the FAI and its ridiculous to suggest they have. The FAI have nothing to do with the ground. Any money spent on improving the ground is not refundable obviously - and this why the ground has not been developed. Anything that is not part of the structure i.e. portacabins can be removed and in fairness apart from that there wasn't really much else put in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LFC in Exile View Post
    No they haven't been shagged by the FAI and its ridiculous to suggest they have. The FAI have nothing to do with the ground. Any money spent on improving the ground is not refundable obviously - and this why the ground has not been developed. Anything that is not part of the structure i.e. portacabins can be removed and in fairness apart from that there wasn't really much else put in.
    Just on this, in fairness to the club there was at least €50k put in in the last few years

    Agree with you that its non-refundable though very much a case of tough $hit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lim till i die View Post
    You need at least a minimum of 21 years to draw down grants so I would have thought thats obvious
    My sarcasm was obviously lost on you...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LFC in Exile View Post
    But it doesn't matter what term the lease is if it is given to ABC Ltd which is a private limited company. The shareholders in that company e.g. DD or his buddy then have the ground - not Limerick FC. Now i am not for one second suggesting they would do anything against the club. But things change. 10 years down the line and the area gets developed or rezoned etc. ABC Ltd's shareholders decide to assign the lease to a property development company. This is what happened with Miltown - except Kilcoyne owned the ground outright. Rovers did not own the ground. Now the FAI jumped up and down and every body got very excited but there is nothing legally the FAI could have done. Joe talks about the FAI giving more help - there is no help - Kilcoyne owned it. End of.
    Maybe there was nothing they could have done about it, but they certainly could have done more to protect a club as big as Shamrock Rovers. Yeah Yeah Yeah...I can hear the sympathy for Rovers coming already....but they deserved their association and leagues support and never got it. Help with re-location etc...the same will be the case with Limerick. The FAI and EL have a responsibility to do more to help its member clubs...something it sadly has never done in the past.

    We all know Kilcoyne owned it, so yeah, as you put it, end of !! Surely then stipulations can be put into leases to guarantee the tenure of that lease is used for footballing purposes only, irrespective of whose name its in. There are ways to secure futures-you simply have to want to secure them first of all. I don't think Drew gives a rats ass abot the future of Limerick FC now. He saw it as an egotrip that he could make money out of 2 1/2 years ago...now the cold light of day has slapped him and he now knows that EL football isn't a cash cow like Munster rugby, so he wants to run Good luck to him I say...thanks for trying, but now run off and stick to the curry sauce, or tiles, or whatever it is you're actually good at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PinBallWizard View Post
    My sarcasm was obviously lost on you...
    It's more likely that it just wasn't very good

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