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    Bad, BAD news!

    MAJOR bad news lads. The vacant Sunderland job has been filled by Howard Wilkinson and some b***ox Cotterill as his assisstant according to channel4sport.com. Looks like Mick the P***k will be around for awhile yet.

    Murphy Out Now!!!

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    that b*****x as you so eloquently called him led us (sligo) into europe in 95-96!

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    Question John. Which irish manager, with an Irish passport did a better job as Irish manager ever??

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    Originally posted by Shed End John
    Looks like Mick the P***k will be around for awhile yet.
    Oh yeah, thats terrible! Wouldn´t it be fantastic if we were left without a manager only days before a crucial qualifying game That would be fantastic. We´d be guaranteed to win then That is one of the most utterly stupid and ridiculous posts I´ve ever read on this board

    By the way, in case you were back home on Mars (or wherever it is you left your brain) that "P***k" got this country to within a few kicks of the world cup quarter finals
    Last edited by Éanna; 10/10/2002 at 2:20 PM.

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    Originally posted by Éanna
    that "P***k" got this country to within a few kicks of the world cup quarter finals
    and i thought the team did that

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    Mccarthy for Stoke City

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    Originally posted by James
    and i thought the team did that
    Oh right. So McCarthy IS responsible for us losing (in Moscow) but he IS NOT reponsible for us doing well in the world cup.

    That makes sense

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    Now I'm fairly indifferent to McCarthy myself, but the problem I have with the anti-McCarthy brigade is that they seem to take it for granted that a new manager would be more successful than Mccarthy. Since McCarthy got us to the World Cup I can only assume that these people won't be satisfied with a new manager unless he not only qualifies us for Euro 2004 but actually goes on to win the damn thing.

    Aside from this, who out there would do a better job than McCarthy? The only name I hear these people suggesting is Brian Kerr, who as said above, probably isn't even interested in the job.

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    [QUOTE]Originally posted by MikeW
    is that they seem to take it for granted that a new manager would be more successful than Mccarthy.

    Since McCarthy got us to the World Cup I can only assume that these people won't be satisfied with a new manager unless he not only qualifies us for Euro 2004 but actually goes on to win the damn thing.
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    A new manager may not be as 'successful', but he'd have to be a better manager of people. Management isn't just about affairs ON the pitch you know.
    Secondly, fact is with RK in the team and a little ambition, we might just have had a damn good shot at winning the Euros.

    Murphy Out Now!!!

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    Originally posted by gustavo
    that b*****x as you so eloquently called him led us (sligo) into europe in 95-96!
    Sligo, exactly WHO are they?, WHERE are they now?, and what in the name of Jesus did they do in Europe that season?

    Murphy Out Now!!!

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    Originally posted by GWA
    Which irish manager, with an Irish passport did a better job as Irish manager ever??
    Jack Charlton?

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    Bring back Rocketman!

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    Originally posted by Shed End John
    A new manager may not be as 'successful', but he'd have to be a better manager of people. Management isn't just about affairs ON the pitch you know.
    It is really. Most of us wouldn´t give a toss who or what was in charge if we won the world cup would we?

    Originally posted by Shed End John
    Secondly, fact is with RK in the team and a little ambition, we might just have had a damn good shot at winning the Euros.
    More likely we´d have one man playing to show that he´s above everyone else, and ten players who don´t agree with him being back in the squad. Result, probably even worse than moscow. Whether McCarthy goes or not, R** Keane should never play for Ireland again

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    Originally posted by Éanna

    It is really. Most of us wouldn´t give a toss who or what was in charge if we won the world cup would we?
    Whether McCarthy goes or not, R** Keane should never play for Ireland again
    Fact is, I never wanted to see McCarthy get the job in the first place. Winning the World Cup wouldn't change that or my desire to see him make way for someone else.
    Secondly, if Mick leaves and Roy is in a position to play for Ireland again he will. No questions asked. It might sound abrupt but that's the way it is.

    Murphy Out Now!!!

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    Originally posted by Shed End John
    Fact is, I never wanted to see McCarthy get the job in the first place. Winning the World Cup wouldn't change that or my desire to see him make way for someone else.
    Neither did I. I still don´t. But managers have to be judged primarily on results, and right now we´re doing very well, moscow aside- everyones allowed an off-day. If poor results become more frequent it´s a different story.

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    Originally posted by Éanna


    Neither did I. I still don´t. But managers have to be judged primarily on results, and right now we´re doing very well, moscow aside- everyones allowed an off-day. If poor results become more frequent it´s a different story.
    Christ, for someone previously so defensive of him that's a MAJOR change of tune. Besides that, as 'well' as we're doing, I can't help thinking that with a little attitude/mindset adjustment we could do a hell of alot better and rightly fulfill our potential.

    Murphy Out Now!!!

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    Originally posted by Shed End John


    Fact is, I never wanted to see McCarthy get the job in the first place. Winning the World Cup wouldn't change that or my desire to see him make way for someone else.
    Personally, I think you are talking complete and utter crap. That has to go down as one of the most ridiculous statements ever made on this site. What you are saying is that even if we won the World cup you would want rid of McCarthy. if we won the World cup the guy would be a god. Get things in perspective and please stop talking rubbish.

    I have no real problem with McCarthy and feel that he has done a good job with a fairly poor squad of players. However, he may not be the best man for the job but having a change of manager between now and euro 2004 could spell disaster.
    Champions!

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    Originally posted by Shed End John


    Sligo, exactly WHO are they?, WHERE are they now?, and what in the name of Jesus did they do in Europe that season?


    amongst our results in the intertoto cup that season were a three all draw with nantes and a goaless draw with heerenveen


    we qualified for finishing third some 6 places and 14 points above cork city

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    it's all that KNACKER Keane's fault.
    would the judas ******* ever **** off.

    BTW 'Shed End John' - you came out of that looking like a right twit! did ya ever hear of Sligo Rovers?

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    McCarthy has been Ireland's best manager. He had to clean up the mess left by Charlton and now has us 13th in the world and playing a good brand of football.

    Much as I admire him, I was hoping he would go to Sunderland BECAUSE he doesn't deserve to have to put up with the **** he is getting at the moment (from the likes of 'Shed End John' and other morons like you).

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    Originally posted by Neil
    McCarthy has been Ireland's best manager. He had to clean up the mess left by Charlton and now has us 13th in the world and playing a good brand of football.
    Much as I´ve never been a McCarthy fan, one would have to be blind AND stupid to dispute that fact.

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    Is it fair to say that the main 2 things that McCarthy is hated for are:

    1) Handling the RK situation in "not the best manner"

    and

    2) Sticking with donkey defenders when better ones are available!

    Apart from that, to be fair his results have been pretty good (Russia excluded)

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