QuoteWhich might explain your dip in form of late?
Apparently being interviewed for their managers job today!!
Which might explain your dip in form of late?
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All of this has happened before. All of it will happen again.
Hope not stephen is a great manager and a great man to bring the league forward.
I'd say thats more down to playing 2 games a week for the last few months.Originally Posted by BohsPartisan
My mistake, apparently it was all balls
Tut tut, now get back to derrycitychat before PaddyS finds out...
While Dunfermline are a bigger club they're so much smaller in relative stature. I don't think they could even be lifted to a European spot under Kenny. I'd imagine it's b.s. Only benefit it would serve would be as a stepping stone to climb up the ladder in Britain. Then again, he's a young man and who knows his long term ambitions.
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sp...p?story=713280
Derry City today insisted that manager Stephen Kenny was going nowhere despite being strongly linked with the vacant post at Scottish Premier League club Dunfermline.
The club have written off the speculation of Kenny quitting the Brandywell for Scotland as an Internet fuelled rumour after the Brandywell bosse's name was circulating on several Scottish websites at the weekend.
The link initially surfaced when Dunfermline chairman John Yorkston that they were interviewing several 'surprise candidates' for the job yesterday and today.
The Derry City squad were also given yesterday off - the first time they haven't been brought in for training on a Sunday in a number of months.
Dunfermline are languishing at the foot of the Scottish Premier League table with just two wins in 13 games and lost 3-0 to Falkirk at the weekend.
Sources indicated to the Belfast Telegraph that Kenny was in Scotland yesterday to talk to Dunfermline, but Derry have denied this and also said that they haven't given the manager permission to speak to any other club.
"Stephen is very happy with his job," a source at Derry said today.
"He's not going anywhere."
The mystery should be cleared up within the next 24 hours with Dunfermline understood to be close to naming their new boss.
Kenny's managerial stock was inevitably raised in Scotland by Derry's 5-1 destruction of first division Gretna in August in the UEFA Cup.
After leading the club to the first round proper in Europe before losing to Paris St Germain, winning the League Cup and securing a place in the FAI Cup final, as well as still being in the hunt for the league title, it would be a major shock to Derry City if Kenny was to leave.
There are four league games remaining and Derry are likely to have to win every one of them if they are to pip Shelbourne to the title.
The first of those comes tomorrow night when the Candystripes face a trip to Drogheda United in what could be a pivotal week in the eircom League.
Defending champions Cork City - who won't be able to retain their crown - host Shelbourne on Friday night and Derry will be keeping a close eye on that game.
Meanwhile an independent arbitrator is expected to be appointed by the FAI to look into the appeals board decision to allow Shelbourne a replay with Bohemians. The FAI announced on Saturday that the matter was being referred to arbitration.
Originally the appeals board had said the game should be replayed after Bohemians won the original game 2-1 in August when they played the suspended Jason McGuinness.
Shelbourne lead Derry at the top of the table by three points.
As Irishmen we dilute our sense of nation by depending on the English to bring us our balls
I'd be more confident if it was Kenny himself who was coming out and denying it.
But it was always something we were going to have to face sooner rather than later. He's young and ambitious and we can't hold him back from a bigger job. Hopefully we'll get another season or so from him.
However, he could do better than Dunfermline IMHO.
What is this nonesense theory that always gets spouted that high-flying teams have a dip in form just because their manager has a job interview ?!?
Firstly - the stiory is ballax anyway.
Secondly - it would be Kenny being interviewed, not the players.
Thirdly - Mickey Mouse struggling teams with low morale may see a dip in form from something like this, but not successful teams that are doing well. They'll continue their professional approach and strive for success regardless of who may or may not be getting interviewed.
Finally - as if a Manager with a positive record under his belt would allow a dip in form when he was going for interview, as that would dent his credibility at the very time he is looking for a job. You're only as good as your recent results.
This is just a nonesense theory spouted when results and circumstances combine, as they often do in football. Thankfully the whole story has been exposed to be equally as rubbish.
Sc-unthorpe. The only football team with the word 'thorpe' in their name.......look at that you cant say Sc-unthorpe on Foot
He will have to make a move - yes.
But he will not have to make a move to a two-bit rubbish Scottish club with no chance of winning anything of note for the forseeable future. That would actually be a step backwards.
Technically, that's not true.
Can they get anything right at that paper?
Have Boot Disk, will travel
How can you do well at Dunfermline ?!?
Will you win the league - not a chance.
Will you win the Cup - very unlikely.
Will you win the League Cup - probably not, but no-one cares even if you do.
Will you qualify for Europe at any point in the next 5 years - very unlikely.
So how exactly can a manager prove their stuff in such a hopeless league ?
Who was the last manager outside of the Big 5 in Scotland (Old Firm, Edinburgh x 2, and Aberdeen) to prove themselves in the SPL before moving on to much bigger things ???
Being sucessful with dunfirmline does not mean winning leagues or cup, you, i and everyone else knows the old firm grip plus hearts are too strong, however if he had them in a afavorable 4th / 5th place and pushing upwards in 2/3 years and avoided relegation this year, it wouldnt take a genious to work out a bigger club in scotland or england would snap him up.
It doesnt take a genius to work out he will not go any higher in the game without taking that intermediatory step to poor club in either scotland or england,
dunfirmline would be a perfect stepping stone if he could turn them around, success is not always winning everything in front of you, sucess would be taking them as far as he would be expected to,
And if that Gretna team made it to a scotish cup final with a bit of luck you couldnt rule out any club getting there,
I can just picture the CV now :
'Lifted Dunfermline 3 places in the SPL from relegation candidates to mid-table obscurity, and once made it to the quarter-finals of the Scottish Cup 2 years ago...'.
That should see the Directors of English Premiership clubs reaching for their cheque book.....
Name me any manager outside the Big 5 in Scotland who has been able to use Scottish football to build a career in the last 5 years ? The answer says it all really...
As for this notion that money must equal success - a club like Dunfermline won't attract players of any quality, bar ageing journeymen, for the reasons I've outlined above about the club's almost non-existent potential. So money is irrelevant in such a distorted league as the SPL. Gretna have an astronomically higher budget than City's, and look what happened to them..
Last edited by dcfcsteve; 06/11/2006 at 4:01 PM.
It's a perfect opportunity for him to put himself on the shop window. All he has to do is keep Dunfermiline in the division and improve each year. It's a realistic step for him to make. If there is any truth in it then it is unfortunate for Derry City. However, it's unlikely he would jump ship at this stage of the season. Dunfermiline need someone asap, and that rules Kenny out unless he dramatically leaves.
As Irishmen we dilute our sense of nation by depending on the English to bring us our balls
If it's a strategy that would work, then why has no-one else done it recently ?
I'll ask again - who was the last Manager outside of the Big 5 to use Scottish football on which to build a successful career ? If it was such a feasible thing to do, then other capable managers would already be doing it.
Well argued there Bohsx3....Yeah of course
who was the last Eircom league irish manager to try it in England/Scotland? Roddy Collins. He hardly gave a insight into the quality of young managers we have. I haven't seen too many clubs come knocking for our top managers over the past 30years. Collins didn't help. If Kenny wants a job in England or elsewhere, and i'm sure he does, as he is an ambitious fellow, I'm sure he'll be able to transform whatever team he takes. I must have a lot more faith in Kenny's ability as a manager than you obviously have, as I believe he could build a successful career outside the Scottish big 5 as you call them.
As Irishmen we dilute our sense of nation by depending on the English to bring us our balls
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