League Farce

[GuisaSaigon]

Sorry Magicme, it was the FAI i was ranting at, not you.

[corbyeire]

seems like limerick will go under now if they dont get the lease at the end of the year - more farce

[GUISAUltra]

the good old FAI are already having a huge impact

[scotsbeer]

right, i dont do rocket science but i do get the general gist of how points are being allocated to clubs regarding their application to join the league next season but im still a wee bit confused as to how this play off pish is going to work. is it just an opportunity for the runner up in our league and the 11th placed team in other league to gain extra points for their ALREADY SUBMITTED applications? if so, what are the point allocation? what if both games finish level or level on aggregate.? does the winner overall go straight up? if so then what the feck was the application process all about in the first place? its all a pure and utter pile of nonsense.

[Terry]

not 100% sure but someone else said elsewhere on this forum that the play off is for "1" point

[Conor H]

not 100% sure but someone else said elsewhere on this forum that the play off is for "1" point

I heard 15.If it's for 1 point we shouldn't bother are arses travelling to Bray or Waterford if we're in it.

[DmanDmythDledge]

It's one point for calculating marks, but if it makes a differnce in placing it would be worth 10 points.

[scotsbeer]

sorry to harp on but that still doesnt clear things up. do u mean that if the overall winner of the play off is the team from the premier they get ten extra points toward their application and the losers just get the one extra point for taking part and vice versa? seems a bit daft. whats new there though with the fai and el.
if its only worth1 point then i agree wqith connor h. no matter how loyal a fan u are , who would travel all the way to bray or waterford for extra point.
anyway, excuse the thicko. 2 wins are the first priority before all of that

[Conor H]

kilkenny are far from a joke Conor maybe because they run the club within thir means and OWN one of the finest grounds in the Country other big clubs who spend all their money chasing crazy dreams laugh at them but I certainly admire Jim Rhattigan and his club.

Just saw in the attendances thread there.
50.yes 50......... at Kilkenny v Athlone.I'm sorry but that's a joke.They have little or no potential IMO.
Fair enough the books are in order but you'd have to question the sustainability of the club with laughable attendances like that.
Looks like we'll easily outnumber them next week!!

[Terry]

I remember 7 or 8 years ago being up in terryland on a miserable winters day for a match against monaghan with less than 50 at it and we seem to have faired out alright in the end.

Kilkenny have there off the pitch in good order, on the pitch now can only go up.

[John83]

You'd be surprised how many fans come out of the woodwork when a team starts doing well, Conor.

And how few hang around when you've been crap for several years.

[MyTown]

Conor,
I still think if Jim Rhatigan has balanced the books he deserves his place at the top table. In the midst of so much incompetence at other levels of the game and the manner in which Shelbourne and others have been allowed to go about their "business", Kilkenny are the template of how to do it properly. Who knows hurling might bomb there in the coming years and the locals will start to head to Buckley Park in greater numbers?

Waterford was the soccer heartland in the south east and very little will change to sway that support towards Kilkenny, but I'd much rather see them there than some of the Dublin clubs.

I'd say if Ronan Seerey had a Jim Rhatigan on his side Dublin City might still be in business. Instead, depending on who you believe, he personally, took a hit of up to six figures when his club went out of business - including the mortgaging of his house and car.

The great thing about soccer is that it is very democratic about who gets to play. I think if Kilkenny can afford to stay in business they deserve huge respect.

[DmanDmythDledge]

sorry to harp on but that still doesnt clear things up. do u mean that if the overall winner of the play off is the team from the premier they get ten extra points toward their application and the losers just get the one extra point for taking part and vice versa? seems a bit daft. whats new there though with the fai and el.

Teams are given points for the 2006 season which will count towards 20% of the overall points. This includes league, cups and european results. For the league points it's 21 for first, 20 for second and so on till 1 for 21st. The team that wins the FD will be 11th and score 8 points, whoever wins the playoff 12th and scores 7 points and whoever loses the playoff 13th and scores 6 points.

Its explained fully in http://www.fai.ie/merger/pdf/eircomLeague-proposals.pdf"]this[/URL]- go to page 15 for the points criteria stuff.

[GuisaSaigon]

I remember us getting a crowd of 62 against limerick in the sportsgrounds a few years back. That was in the Premier Division ! We had a sh!te start to the season and people werent interested. Kilkenny have had a sh!te season, they have nothing to play for and people aren't interested .

[GUISAUltra]

kilkennys attendances are nearly always low these days though.
Even though they are well balanced of the pitch they are the worst team in the first division and i guarantee they would trade financial stability to be flying high in the premier division

[gufct]

Knowing the people who run kilkenny financial stability will always be the top priority and their right if you look at the mess a club like shels are in.

[GUISAUltra]

its easy to say they'd refuse the money when they have never been offered it. i still think kilkenny would switch a bad bank book for top flight football and european games

[DmanDmythDledge]

its easy to say they'd refuse the money when they have never been offered it. i still think kilkenny would switch a bad bank book for top flight football and european games

But they would only be temporary positives. They wouldn't be able to sustain a squad good enough to keep the level of performance up due to financial problems, or they could go down the Shels route and thread very close to going out of existence. Kilkenny have set the foundations to be a successful club. however the only problem I see them facing is that Kilkenny is a hurling county so most talented youngsters would choose a career in hurling rather than soccer.

[GUISAUltra]

i still think that no matter how solid a base kilkenny have they will never ever be a successful club. fair play to them for having a good house in order and everything i can just never ever see them being successful. i might be wrong but i dont think i will be

[Conor H]

Agree with ULTRA.
There's no point having a well run club if nobody bcomes to support the bloody team!