QuoteAw come on I'm not THAT bad surelyOriginally Posted by dahamsta
Dont be afraid at all Adam. He makes a fair point!
Capital punsihment is always the easy way out. I think I have a fundamental problem who believe that murder is such a terrible crime that the only possible punsihment is.......murder.
Aw come on I'm not THAT bad surely
It was stomach churning listening to the British Foreign secretary yesterday calling it "a great day for Iraq"
Really smacked of the old imperial days....... Oh we don't care for capital punishment but it's ok for those savages
The net effect will heightened tension between the Sunnis and Shias, so if thats great for Iraq I wouldn't like to see what they consider bad for Iraq.
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All of this has happened before. All of it will happen again.
As pointed out he was no threat to the rest of the Middle East. Lets not forget that no WMD's were found which was given as the whole reason of going in there in the first place.
He was however a brutal dictator who administered terrible crimes upon his own people and that is what he was being judged on.
There is something inherently wrong though with a death penalty sentence in this day and age and to hear commentators praise the judgement bemuses me. These are the same people who preach about democracy and "liberating the Iraqi people". On the one hand they want the country to move forward and embrace modern practices and on the other they celebrate outdated and backward punishments.
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It's much more important that they shut up someone who could expose their double standards. Afterall, the US and UK hardly want him to start getting out the receipts for the weapons he used in these atrocities, do they?
If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.
I think beckett's comments yesterday were stomach churning. And lads, this is just the tip of the iceberg. we'll be talking about Iraq twenty years from now
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I agree 100%. Saddam was so badly wounded from the 1st Gulf War he was no threat to anyone outside his borders. Sure he talked bravely but probably just to stop others from invading. I'd guess Iraq so weakened by 1st Gulf War that Iran could easily have invaded? Iraq is certainly a lot more dangerous internally
& externally now. Maybe in time Saddams overthrowal will be good but can'yt see how its improved anything at the moment.
I hope the EU deplores the verdict as its been forcing potential candidate countries to remove from their statutes in order to be considered for membership.
I agree totally that Saddam was no longer a threat to the Middle East, plus if anyone here believes in giving everyone a fair trial then they surely can't hold this one up as being in any way impartial. I've said this to a few people, and in response have been told that 'sure we know that he did it, even if there isn't enough evidence to convince an impartial jury', which in my mind is no argument at all.
That said I don't believe that Saddam will be hanged, anyone in their right mind can see what sort of trouble that will cause in Iraq and it won't happen. The capital punishment verdict was given, in my opinion, to garner a cowardly response from Saddam, if you notice the American media focused their cameras on his eyes, in my mind in the hope that he would start crying and the American hype machine could kick into gear again.
As for the 1st Gulf War, that was just an excuse for America to test out the chemical weapons they had been building since the Vietnamese War ended and to see what effects they would have, as was stated by a frormer American general who served in that war, I think his name was Donnelly although I'm not 100% sure on that
Probably talking about it as a country which used to exist.
Yeah, very little coverage of his unity comments. That he called on the country to be united. Not to attack the Americans (Whatever that was about, they are ligit targets) The ****e media always tries to dehumanise people so that hanging sounds great.
Can we get it on HD on Sky?
The Sun had a cut out and keep Sadam hangman game the other day. Subtle as ever.
TO TELL THE TRUTH IS REVOLUTIONARY
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All of this has happened before. All of it will happen again.
Filthy dirty rotten rag sheet I genuinely wouldn't wipe my ar$e with it
Anyone read Fisk on Saddam in The Independant the other day??
By the time I got into town they were sold out
Despite a huge marketing campaign, the weekend box office takings for the new movie from 20th Century Fox, Saddam: Cultural Learnings of Kurdistan for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Iraq, fell short of analyst expectations. Because film not success, Saddam will be execute.
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You can usually read all his artciles on the Independent website. Been long since i looked at though.
yeah i know what you meant,
maybe not the middle east as such, but he did have a hell of a war with Iran, and the kurds didnt exactly get on well with him, and dare i say kuwait,
but yeah not strictly the middle east, but you know what i meant!
As a member of an organisation campaigning for abolition of death penalty, I need to react here as well.
I am 100% against the death penalty in ANY case, even if it is Saddam. The death penalty doesn't resolve anything, it is coldblooded murder, letting a human being count down till death as if he counts down till holiday. No victim is ever returned, but one extra victim is made.
In this particular case, it's even more important to stop the execution. The whole world is watching this courtcase, so if we can stop Saddam's execution, then we spread a symbolic message against the death penalty, but the message will this time be heard by the whole world, it will reverberate in all government buildings of China, Iran, S.Arabia, USA, Japan, ... and hopefully it will be a message towards these countries, pushing them towards abolition themselves.
Also, if Saddam gets executed he'll be a martyr towards his supporters, and then the Iraqi civil war will be worse then ever, society will only be divided more by an execution. And the fear for terror strikes on the western world (as a revenge) will be higher than ever.
Saving Saddam's life is what needs to be done in order not to set the world on fire even more, but also just because it's the only human thing to do.
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