QuoteSomeone'e feeling the pressure
Fenlon slams Kenny Unison.ie-Friday 28th October
Shels boss puts boot in as war of words gets nasty
THE war of words about the off the field drama that could overshadow this season's eircom League title race continued last night when Shelbourne manager Pat Fenlon told Stephen Kenny, his opposite number at Derry, that people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
Fenlon was enraged by comments made by Kenny in the aftermath of the Candystripes' 2-0 win in Tuesday's top of the table clash.
The Derry manager said that it would be a scandal if their title rivals got three points back from next Wednesday's appeal into the decision of the league to simply deduct Bohemians three points for fielding the suspended Jason McGuinness in their 2-1 win over Shels in August.
Shels insist that they should get the three points from the game, citing previous UEFA cases as evidence, or at the very least get to replay the match.
And Fenlon has hit back at Kenny's comments, accusing Derry of being hypocritical, considering that they successfully used off the field processes to escape a three-point penalty for fielding the suspended Sean Hargan in a league game.
"I've kept my peace on it a little bit but I can't any longer after hearing some of the crap that's come out from Stephen", fumed Fenlon.
"I've had a bellyful of his comments in the paper about things being won on the pitch. If he's serious about that, then he needs to look at the bigger picture where he gained points on us in the Dublin City fiasco."
When the decision was made to expunge the defunct club's games from the record, Derry gained three points as they had lost one of their matches with the Vikings whereas Shels had won on both occasions.
"Stephen's got to look at the bigger picture and not just say things the way he wants it," continued Fenlon.
"They're complaining about us making a complaint against Jason McGuinness yet they were willing to go down the same road to get Sean Hargan off suspension."
"There's a case here of stones and glass houses and they need to be very careful about what road they want to go down."
In the event of Shelbourne's appeal being unsuccessful, they are likely to take the matter further. This one could run and run.
Someone'e feeling the pressure
As Irishmen we dilute our sense of nation by depending on the English to bring us our balls
Ah boo ****ing hoo Nutsy...
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Fenlon 2006:
"I've kept my peace on it a little bit but I can't any longer after hearing some of the crap that's come out from Stephen......................
Keegan 1996
"I've kept really quiet, but I'll tell you something: he went down in my estimation when he said that - we have not resorted to that. But I'll tell ya - you can tell him now if you're watching it - we're still fighting for this title, and he's got to go to Middlesbrough and get something, and... and I tell you honestly, I'd love it if we beat them - love it."
Originally Posted by wws
He has a point though.
#NeverStopNotGivingUp
So, when the season finally does end, we'll have all have to put together the actual tables by taking three points off Derry, possibly three points off Shelbourne, adding three points onto Rovers and three points onto Bohs.
And Scully gets fined for saying the league is a mess?
Champions.
16 leagues & 24 cups.
Scullys 3 grand fine really is a joke when you look at some of the goings on this season, better off constantly whinging like Kenny or Fenlon to a lesser extent and nothing happens to you
eh? sorry ure non league and this doesn't impact on your league table
The Administration of the Eircom League are to blame here. Not Fenlon, not Kenny and certainly not Scully whose fine still baffles me, especially when taken in the context of the fine Rico got for actually calling an official corrupt live on National television.
Fenlons right to appeal is valid in this case. There is UEFA precedent. Kenny maybe should have kept his powder dry especially over the Hargan issue. The powers that be in Irish football live in Balamory....they certainly have the mental capacity of someone who does.
Fenlon's appeal is a joke, particularly when they knew beforehand and refused to point it out. The precedent in ireland is to dock the club 3 points.
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Ah Joe, the good citizens of Balamory are way above the intelligence of FAI/League Officals in this countryThe powers that be in Irish football live in Balamory....they certainly have the mental capacity of someone who does.
The administration of the league is a joke.
Rovers point deduction is the most idiotic. They didn't know that someoone was suspended as they were not informed - and they had a valid argument that the bookings should not have counted when the results of Dublin City were expunged.
Hargans suspension row - again - FAI's fault. No one, not even the press or any administrators of any club could have imformed Derry that Sean Hargan was suspended. He was allowed to play three games. For God's sake - that's the FAI's fault.
Don't know the ins and outs of the McGuiness suspension, but Bohs haven't appealed. Shels have though. In parallell with the Shamrock ROvers case above - will Rovers opponents on the game in question Dundalk get their three points, if Shels are awarded them?
There has been a call for a replay, but again this will only give Bohs the opportunity for the points, which is idiotic.
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Let's see if they fine Kenny for his rant in the first place.
JOKERS.
As Irishmen we dilute our sense of nation by depending on the English to bring us our balls
Fenlon has a point though about the Dublin thing. Derry got a bonus 3 points for a game they lost.
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He does, Derry were fortunate in that respect, but Cork and other clubs as well as Shels lost out on the decision. No appeals from those clubs. Most people agreed at the time that that was the only decision they could have made though. It looks like Kenny was looking for a reaction from the FAI but he got one from Fenlon.
As Irishmen we dilute our sense of nation by depending on the English to bring us our balls
If the benchmark is a €5k fine for the type of comments made by Scully... then Kenny's comments which in a more overt way than Scully could be interputed as an attack on the offfices of FAI and were made whilst the issue in question is in effect "sub judice"... I wonder how much of a fine will the FAI impose on Kenny ?
I am not to often back Fenlon but he is totally correct about Stephen Kennys comments. I can't see how Kenny can criticise Shels when Derry used a dubious technicality to keep their own 3 points.
Dubious technicality??I can't see how Kenny can criticise Shels when Derry used a dubious technicality to keep their own 3 points.
I dont understand this UEFA precedent stuff.
The uefa u21 championships are played under a different rule book than the Eircom League. There are loads of differences in the rules. Madness.
ah but the mental capicty of the admin of the eircom league is only matched by the sheer stupity of the administrators of clubs
I wish i did not know then what I dont know now
Dubious technicality my arse!! Our solicitor proved that the FAI did NOT send us notice of Sean Hargans suspension. Why the hell should we be punished for something that wasnt our fault. As for Fenlons rant, thats a sign of pressure to rant at your rival. He complained that we over-celebrated. Who is he to tell us how to celebrate.I am not to often back Fenlon but he is totally correct about Stephen Kennys comments. I can't see how Kenny can criticise Shels when Derry used a dubious technicality to keep their own 3 points.
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