Could people please stop quoting billsthoughts, as it's making my use of the ignore button ineffective.
Originally Posted by geysir
I was just thinking the same thing!
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Could people please stop quoting billsthoughts, as it's making my use of the ignore button ineffective.
Why?Christ!! I don't know where to even begin ...
Its a simple matter of applyin the same standards to yourself as you do to other people. and shows up the stupidity and OTTness of calling someone a traitor cause he decided a drinking session ending in a moral victory wasnt for him...
Last edited by Billsthoughts; 04/11/2006 at 1:40 PM.
I was just thinking the same thing!Ah lets give "Stan" a chance...sure he is a lovely man.....
I see the head in the sand brigade are out in force again...
Last edited by Billsthoughts; 04/11/2006 at 1:44 PM.
I'm honoured to be quoted by your good self Bill considering I contributed almost nothing to this thread for or against your argument!
I really must be held in high esteem as a member of the 'Head In Sand Brigade'!
Surely you've better things to be doing with your time Bill
Last edited by Karlos; 04/11/2006 at 5:12 PM.
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I have some FIFA reports to peruse but other than that my weekend is free....I'm honoured to be quoted by your good self Bill considering I contributed almost nothing to this thread for or against your argument!
I really must be held in high esteem as a member of the 'Head In Sand Brigade'!
Surely you've better things to be doing with your time Bill
Do you think Colin Healy would agree with that?
Absolute rubbish. When you walk out on your country you deserve to be called a traitor. Comparing it to the Ali situation?
Winners dont let their country down.
KOH
Lads we dont have to agree on this issue as I dont think anybody has every changed their mind on this issue as a result of debating it on an internet forum or even in a pub over a few beers. However there is no excuse for snide little personal comments made about people or to use OTT the top remarks like traitor in relation to Keane or muppet in relation to Mc Carthy. It only detracts from ones argument in my opinion.
In Trap we trust
well it is comparable. he was called much the same things at the time. the prevailing mood was that he was letting his country down and there wasnt much sympathy for him. but hard to argue with them roll eyes....Absolute rubbish. When you walk out on your country you deserve to be called a traitor. Comparing it to the Ali situation?
Winners dont let their country down.
KOH
Well of course it's comparable. One very famous black man refuses to go to the other side of the world to kill Vietnamese and the other couldnt be arsed playing football for his country in a World Cup.
Your reasoning qualifies you for a job at the FAI for life.
KOH
It simply isn't even remotely comparable ... Ali's stance was as much about his own race / identity as it was to do with the Vietnam war & what happened to him after his time at the Olympics! You clearly feel that Keane's actions were deliberate and fair (which is fair enough) but - aside from the whole 'letting his country down' argument - what about someone like Colin Healy? Someone who will almost certainly never get to play in a world cup finals. Is it fair on him?
if you dont know anything about something why bother replying?
I doubt he was gonna be killing vietnamese for starters but if it suits your argument or lack therof throw it in sure what the bother.
The majority of americans at the time thought he was totally in the wrong. As for the Colin Healy thing...he wont get to play in a world cup again cause he aint good enough. he didnt get to play in one before because he wasnt good enough.
Always ask myself that when I see your posts.
So going to war means people wont be killed? Are you for real? How do you know he would'nt have been sent to the front line? Maybe you know everything or absolutely nothing judging by your posts.
You're obviously missing the point re Healy. He had a chance of playing but that went cos of all the faffing around traitor did. "Mick I wanna go home", is then persuaded to stay and then he lost the plot.
KOH
I think both sides were at fault but the post above has to be contender for post of the month (made me laugh anyway)
The Ali comparison was merely giving another example of someone who did what he felt was right thing to do rather than what was expected of him. Even leaving aside the fact that neither NY Hoop or Emmet seem to know the ins and outs of the Ali case its a valid comparison given the use of words like "traitor" and "let his country down". NY Hoop if you dont feel there is any comparison due to differance in the seriousness of both situations then why do you not see this differnace when it comes to applying inflammatory language to the Keane situation? By discrediting me do you not discredit yourself and the language you use? I guess what I am trying to say is you are an immature little **** who follows anyone who even deigns to disagree with him round the messageboard like a child. So stop following me and get a life. I disagree with, ya get over it. get therapy.
Last edited by Billsthoughts; 06/11/2006 at 7:38 PM.
Get your facts right!! Colin Healy was selected for the Irish squad - he even had shirts made up for him by Umbro! He was good enough and was devasted by FIFA's decision to prevent him from playing.
selected for the squad? did he miss his flight or something? make alternative arrangements? werent you on moaning about people being too hard on our stan then nowhere to be heard of after the cyprus game?
Bill - stop advertising your ignorance. He had made alternative arrangements but he dropped them as soon as he heard he had been called up. Like Keane he trained hard and worked hard all his professional career and was unfairly deprived the opportunity to play at a World Cup ... Btw - what does Cyprus have to do with it???
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