Sean St. Ledger

Originally Posted by Umberside

They'v done brilliantly to keep a clean sheet against Balckburn and Wolves

They have, its the Premier league. Clean sheets are very difficult to grind out

Originally Posted by Brendan 82

They have, its the Premier league. Clean sheets are very difficult to grind out

How much pressure have they been under against Blackburn and Wolves? It's been pretty much attack for them in both games.

Originally Posted by Umberside

How much pressure have they been under against Blackburn and Wolves? It's been pretty much attack for them in both games.

To further bring this thread off-topic:

Blackburn vs Man City
Possession: 46%-54%
Shots on target: 9-5
Shots off target: 8-3

Man City vs Wolves
Possession: 65%-35%
Shots on target: 11-2
Shots off target: 5-8

So the Blackburn game wasn't exactly the stroll in the park you are making it out to be.

Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge

To further bring this thread off-topic:

Blackburn vs Man City
Possession: 46%-54%
Shots on target: 9-5
Shots off target: 8-3

Man City vs Wolves
Possession: 65%-35%
Shots on target: 11-2
Shots off target: 5-8

So the Blackburn game wasn't exactly the stroll in the park you are making it out to be.

Don't know why this thread has changed into a Man City defence thread, considering St Ledger was never moving to Eastlands in the first place

Originally Posted by Umberside

How much pressure have they been under against Blackburn and Wolves? It's been pretty much attack for them in both games.

According to ESPN's stats section for those games
5 shots on target by Blackburn: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/gamecas...=stats&cc=5739
2 shots on target by Sunderland: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/gamecas...=stats&cc=5739

Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

According to ESPN's stats section for those games
5 shots on target by Blackburn: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/gamecas...=stats&cc=5739
2 shots on target by Sunderland: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/gamecas...=stats&cc=5739

I can guarantee Sunderland have had no shots on target against Man City, simple because they haven't played them

Don't forget they needed a crossbar against Wolves, would have been great for Keogh if that had gone in btw

Originally Posted by Umberside

I can guarantee Sunderland have had no shots on target against Man City, simple because they haven't played them

sorry, Wolves

Originally Posted by Brendan 82

Don't forget they needed a crossbar against Wolves, would have been great for Keogh if that had gone in btw

That only proves the fragility of the Man City defence, which is what I've been talking about for the last half an hour with you lads

Originally Posted by Umberside

That only proves the fragility of the Man City defence, which is what I've been talking about for the last half an hour with you lads

It proves that clean sheets are very difficult to grind out in the Premier league; which, as clearly evidenced by my posts, is all I am saying. Not only must you play well, you need a bit of luck too. Making it doubly difficult. I think their defense has played well, Toure and Dunne were excellent in my opinion against Andy Keogh, who looked a real handful. Doyle also took some containing when he came on.

Originally Posted by Brendan 82

It proves that clean sheets are very difficult to grind out in the Premier league; which, as clearly evidenced by my posts, is all I am saying. Not only must you play well, you need a bit of luck too. Making it doubly difficult. I think their defense has played well, Toure and Dunne were excellent in my opinion against Andy Keogh, who looked a real handful. Doyle also took some containing when he came on.

At the end of the day it's impossible to judge a defence when they've only played two teams destined for a relegation battle.

Originally Posted by Umberside

At the end of the day it's impossible to judge a defence when they've only played two teams destined for a relegation battle.

Didn't stop you from judging them:

Originally Posted by Umberside

Because of Man City's poor defence Dunne is a valuable player and would certainly be worth more than £5 million.

Evidence that Man City have a poor defence is backed up by lasts season's woeful defence, whereas it's hard to say they've a good defence because they kept clean sheets against Blackburn and Wolves.

Originally Posted by Umberside

Evidence that Man City have a poor defence is backed up by lasts season's woeful defence, whereas it's hard to say they've a good defence because they kept clean sheets against Blackburn and Wolves.

That "sentence" makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. You've talked yourself into a corner, take your licks and jog on son

Originally Posted by Brendan 82

That "sentence" makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. You've talked yourself into a corner, take your licks and jog on son

I agree I have talked myself down here, but the main point I was trying to make shouldn't be discarded.

Originally Posted by Umberside

I agree I have talked myself down here, but the main point I was trying to make shouldn't be discarded.

Was your main point that Man City's defence is shaky enough to ensure they need Dunne?

As we both said, it is too early to make a judgment on their defence as a whole. Though I would agree that they need Dunne, but that is only because I rate Dunne. I reckon any club with Dunne on their books ought to keep, and play, him.

Originally Posted by Brendan 82

Was your main point that Man City's defence is shaky enough to ensure they need Dunne?

As we both said, it is too early to make a judgment on their defence as a whole. Though I would agree that they need Dunne, but that is only because I rate Dunne. I reckon any club with Dunne on their books ought to keep, and play, him.

Exactly what I meant

Originally Posted by Umberside

Exactly what I meant

Good point

Originally Posted by Brendan 82

That "sentence" makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. You've talked yourself into a corner, take your licks and jog on son

Just a matter of time before you get a thanks form DmanDmythDledge for that post

Originally Posted by Umberside

Just a matter of time before you get a thanks form DmanDmythDledge for that post

Ah whatever I don't care, I just post what I think. On another note, why do you think Hughes is so keen to replace Dunne? I mean, is Lescott any better like? I dunno