Some parrallels with recent events

**wws** · 25/10/2006, 2:13 PM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...an/6084480.stm

hearts owner fined 10,000

**Poor Student** · 25/10/2006, 2:20 PM

Romanov's insane and paranoid comments are nowhere near close to Cronin's innocuous comments.

**WeAreRovers** · 25/10/2006, 2:21 PM

Hearts turnover is in the region of st�7m according to the Scotsman. Do the maths.

http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/sport.cfm?id=952282006

KOH

**John83** · 25/10/2006, 2:21 PM

"Last season, you didn't manage to protect the Scottish Cup and gave it to Hearts, despite all the referees' efforts and intrigues."

I'm all in favour of a manager being able to say that the referee was rubbish, but accusing more than one referee of "efforts and intrigues" against you club is not defensible, IMO.

**LukeO** · 25/10/2006, 2:49 PM

Originally Posted by John83

"Last season, you didn't manage to protect the Scottish Cup and gave it to Hearts, despite all the referees' efforts and intrigues."

I'm all in favour of a manager being able to say that the referee was rubbish, but accusing more than one referee of "efforts and intrigues" against you club is not defensible, IMO.

Exactly. I think any levelheaded individual will agree that the fines dished out to Cronin & Scully were outrageous whereas they were justified to take action against Rico earlier in the year for his nonsensical rant. Similarly, if any club official here were to make comments such as those made by Romanov, the league/FAI would be justified in taking proportionate action.

**wws** · 25/10/2006, 2:55 PM

i think the common theme is people shooting their mouth off
romanov is very much an exceptional loose cannon in scotland
scully cronin et al are part of a very long line of league insiders dissing the league
the fai have deemed it worthy of cutting it out - and fore warned all to this effect ( I can see logic in their plan - if not in the execution)

as far as Im concerned if the likes of Dolan, Ollie and Roddy received this type of censure years ago we'd all be in a much better place league wise
Cronin and scully are merely trotting out well worn cliches in league circles
no harm in a nice warm glass of "shut the fck up".

**WeAreRovers** · 25/10/2006, 3:01 PM

Originally Posted by wws

no harm in a nice warm glass of "shut the fck up".

Fine advice, wws, fine advice indeed.

KOH

**wws** · 25/10/2006, 3:40 PM

I felt so too.

**dcfcsteve** · 25/10/2006, 4:09 PM

Completey disagree.

This isn't just a case of casual loose talk doing the league down.

The close season will see the single biggest shake up in the Republic's domestic league for at least 21 years - and arguably ever. Every club has to effectively re-apply to rejoin their own league, justify their operations and their xistence, and they may or may not get the league slot they believe they are entitled to from that process. This is the FAI's big roll of the dice to try to kick-start a new professional league.

If a manager like Cronin isn't allowed to make a factual point about something as fundamental as these changes, then we really are the People's Republic of Delaney....

It's not a warm glass of shut the hell up (as the movie actually says) that EL managers need to be taking - it's more of ther truth serum that Cronin and Scully have managed to get their hands on that should be added to the water in EL circles.

**wws** · 25/10/2006, 4:16 PM

truth serum - "the leagues a joke"

wow what an insight lads keep them coming - the facts are that these clowns are just wanabee roddy collins in the making. If they had have proffered a few constructive solutions and positive suggestions rather than trotting out some some jaded old cliches - you could just about defend them

these ppl through their clubs willingly and knowingly signed up to a code of conduct

**John83** · 25/10/2006, 6:48 PM

Originally Posted by wws

truth serum - "the leagues a joke"

wow what an insight lads keep them coming - the facts are that these clowns are just wanabee roddy collins in the making. If they had have proffered a few constructive solutions and positive suggestions rather than trotting out some some jaded old cliches - you could just about defend them

I won't defend Cronin, but Shamrock Rovers saw their manager fined for saying that the rulebook needed tightening while discussing a situation where the league rulebook had proven totally inadequate.

**A face** · 25/10/2006, 7:50 PM

Originally Posted by John83

I won't defend Cronin, but Shamrock Rovers saw their manager fined for saying that the rulebook needed tightening while discussing a situation where the league rulebook had proven totally inadequate.

Cronin simple said that "We dont know what is happening" as regards the new league. Neither the FAI, the media, UEFA, Tom the Gom, even John Delaney himself knows what will happen. To fine Cronin was completely stupid and pointless.

**John83** · 25/10/2006, 8:34 PM

Originally Posted by A face

Cronin simple said that "We dont know what is happening" as regards the new league. Neither the FAI, the media, UEFA, Tom the Gom, even John Delaney himself knows what will happen. To fine Cronin was completely stupid and pointless.

Perhaps he did (I didn't see this at the time), but going by what he says himself, �I described the fact that I didn't know what league we would be in next season, regardless of where we finish, as a joke," [source], you're simplifying substantially. It strikes me as excessive to fine him, but let's not pretend that he said nothing.

**pineapple stu** · 25/10/2006, 9:32 PM

I really don't see what he said, to be honest. Or rather, I see exactly what he said, but it's so utterly incontrovertible that you may as well fine him for saying "I like air; it helps me live"

**LukeO** · 25/10/2006, 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

"I like air; it helps me live"

How dare you?!!

**Jerry The Saint** · 26/10/2006, 9:31 AM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

"I like air; it helps me live"

I sincerely hope the moderators will be taking action.

**Sheridan** · 26/10/2006, 9:47 AM

More parallels with recent events, this time from impoverished Bolivia

Originally Posted by World Soccer, November 06

Bolivar striker Martin Menacho scored the only goal of the La Paz derby against arch-rivals The Strongest amid claims he should not even have been playing. Menacho, sent off in a previous game, had been suspended by the League two days before the derby but Bolivar claimed they had not been officially informed.

The Strongest poured scorn on this suggestion. "We all know there are ways of getting around this - as a last resort they could have disconnected their fax", said president Jorge Pacheco.

Word travels fast...

**wws** · 26/10/2006, 9:54 AM

Senor Jimmy Roddy of The Strongest

**NY Hoop** · 26/10/2006, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by A face

Cronin simple said that "We dont know what is happening" as regards the new league. Neither the FAI, the media, UEFA, Tom the Gom, even John Delaney himself knows what will happen. To fine Cronin was completely stupid and pointless.

Tom the Gom would run the league better.

KOH