Title race still alive?

**Raheny Red** · 25/10/2006, 9:07 AM

Originally Posted by City till I Die

pity i cant compliment a few Shels fans who decided they wud try and start trouble. But as usual our well trained stewards dealt with it!!

Don't give me that. They are nothing more than hired goons just like any other steward in the league. Anyway, if you mean that swinging their arms and legs as dealing with it then fair enough.......................

**desaintsno.12** · 25/10/2006, 9:09 AM

delighted. please please do it derry.

**dcfcsteve** · 25/10/2006, 9:11 AM

Originally Posted by hoops1

Now thats a suprise, Derry won and the ref was great.
I think there is a pattern forming here. Im not sure but I think its
along the lines of when Derry win the ref is fair and when they lose/ draw
the ref is terrible. Interesting.

I think you'll find its more a case of when Derry gets players sent off for what are perceived as dubious circumstances, or the ref makes patently ridiculous decisions, the ref gets criticised - regardless of whether we lose (which, to be fair, hasn't exactly happened a lot this season).

No real complaints on the ref in games where we've lost and this didn't happen (e.g. Glentoran, PSG). Big complaints on games like, for example, Linfield away where the ref did things like give Linfield a free kick when it was one of their own men that clearly clattered their own goalkeeper.

Still - nice theory.

**hoops1** · 25/10/2006, 9:15 AM

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

I think you'll find its more a case of when Derry gets players sent off for what are perceived as dubious circumstances,

Only dubious in the minds of SK and the Derry support

**dcfcsteve** · 25/10/2006, 9:17 AM

Originally Posted by Raheny Red

Don't give me that. They are nothing more than hired goons just like any other steward in the league. Anyway, if you mean that swinging their arms and legs as dealing with it then fair enough.......................

"Hired goons"....

Well if only the goons that Shels employ could be in some way organised then you might be able to prevent the by-now traditonal pitch invasions after every game in Tolka.

As for City stewards being hired goons - I've heard criticism of stewards from other clubs on a number of occassions (mostly yours and Longford, I might add) but rarely any credible criticism of ours. Maybe that's why the FAI rates them very highly, and has asked them to run training for other clubs, to work at international games etc.

Anyways - let's not have your views on stewards deflect from the fact that the schooligan Bebo-massiff at Shels tried to cause trouble at yet another game. Only this time they were easily prevented by organised stewarding. You know - of the sort that is painfully lacking in Tolka...

**wws** · 25/10/2006, 9:23 AM

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

Maybe that's why the FAI rates them very highly, and has asked to work at international games etc.

standard practice at all the clubs in fairness

**Krstic** · 25/10/2006, 9:42 AM

Shelbourne want the game replayed or to be given the points for last night.
Ollie is using rule 69er, that Derry should have at least one man sent off per game and must not finish a game with a goalkeeper on the pitch.

But on a serious note, when do Shelbourne get the 3 points from the game they didn't win against Bohs??

And as for the Shelbourne fans last night, i was in block B beside them and it was much ado about nothing. A few kids acting the ****.

**Raheny Red** · 25/10/2006, 9:51 AM

Organised in what way? Attacking Shels fans when there was a bit of a scuffle. Kicking out 2 Shels fans for flag waving and pointing at a steward, yes you read that right pointing.

**BohDiddley** · 25/10/2006, 9:53 AM

Go on Derry. Do it for all our sakes.

**hoops1** · 25/10/2006, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by Raheny Red

Kicking out 2 Shels fans for flag waving and pointing at a steward, yes you read that right pointing.

Dead right pointing is nearlyas serious as making a gun with your hand and then pointing it, all very well until someone gets poked in the eye.

**DvB** · 25/10/2006, 10:27 AM

[QUOTE=dcfcsteve;562332]
As for City stewards being hired goons - I've heard criticism of stewards from other clubs on a number of occassions (mostly yours and Longford, I might add) but rarely any credible criticism of ours. QUOTE]

I have to agree here, always found the Stewards in the Brandywell easy to deal with & have never had any hassle from them, they've even protected our flags on occasion when young City fans had a go at damaging them, easily admit they look after us very fairly. Derry, Galway & Cobh easily the best i've encountered in the last few seasons.

Koh

**NY Hoop** · 25/10/2006, 11:47 AM

[QUOTE=DvB;562378]

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

As for City stewards being hired goons - I've heard criticism of stewards from other clubs on a number of occassions (mostly yours and Longford, I might add) but rarely any credible criticism of ours. QUOTE]

I have to agree here, always found the Stewards in the Brandywell easy to deal with & have never had any hassle from them, they've even protected our flags on occasion when young City fans had a go at damaging them, easily admit they look after us very fairly. Derry, Galway & Cobh easily the best i've encountered in the last few seasons.

Koh

Not always only recently. Years back they used to have fans with bibs who were clueless and were not afraid to start trouble but in fairness now they are competent.

Fair play to Derry. Keeps the league interesting and if they win it and we win friday we're in Europe

KOH

**dcfcsteve** · 25/10/2006, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by hoops1

Only dubious in the minds of SK and the Derry support

Hence my use of the word "perceived" in front of dubious......

**dcfcsteve** · 25/10/2006, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by wws

standard practice at all the clubs in fairness

All clubs have been asked to provide training to all other cluibs......?

**dcfcsteve** · 25/10/2006, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by Raheny Red

Organised in what way? Attacking Shels fans when there was a bit of a scuffle. Kicking out 2 Shels fans for flag waving and pointing at a steward, yes you read that right pointing.

People thrown out merely for pointing and flag waving ?

Raheny Red - I suggest you have a look on your club's own forum for numerous posts form Shels fans describing exactly what was happening and saying that it needs to stop :

http://forum.shelbournefc.ie/chat/vi...2e24dd8758d256

Seems it's more than just schooligans at it with Shels these days. Bad losers. You'd have thought you'd have got used to not beating City by now...

**hoops1** · 25/10/2006, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

Hence my use of the word "perceived" in front of dubious......

Christ on a bike! Percieved dubious only by SK and the Derry support.

**wws** · 25/10/2006, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

All clubs have been asked to provide training to all other cluibs......?

i meant they all steward in lansdowne

a lot of club stewards would be event controllers in the various stands on international days - co ordinating the security - i know the pats guy certainly has a hand in running things on the east stand

the volunteer stewards were even doing security for Leinster rugby at lansdowne

**Jaime** · 25/10/2006, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by wws

i know the pats guy certainly has a hand in running things on the east stand

And a fine job he does too.

**wws** · 25/10/2006, 12:58 PM

he doesnt take any sh.t!

**el punter** · 25/10/2006, 1:01 PM

RTE showed the goals and a few chances from last night's game on the 1 o'clock news this afternoon. You should be able to view it on the RTE website later today.

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