Munster Junior Cup 2006/07

**gaidin** · 04/04/2007, 8:37 AM

Originally Posted by C.T.F.C

It certainly would be if we played in Lenister but WE DONT. The hearing is tommorrow night in Cork. Lets wait and see shall we

Any word on the outcome of this meeting or did it go ahead?

**the hoops** · 04/04/2007, 9:08 AM

went ahead last nite

**Town Fan** · 04/04/2007, 9:55 AM

What was the decision? Does anybody know who was on the Clonmel delegation? Hope they sent people who could provide a strong case

**the hoops** · 04/04/2007, 11:04 AM

wont hear till maybe tomorrow

**oscar** · 04/04/2007, 4:16 PM

it should be settled with a replay,i know rules are rules but no one would want to advance to the next round on a technicality,although it is pike we're on about

**Roadend** · 04/04/2007, 4:17 PM

Originally Posted by oscar

it should be settled with a replay,i know rules are rules

If rules are rules then why should it be replayed

**pearse4t3** · 04/04/2007, 4:20 PM

i dont no the ruling on Ken Kiely, but a walk-over constitutes a game played which definately makes Coady legal.

**oscar** · 04/04/2007, 4:24 PM

would u rather go thru by beating a team and proving ur better,or by objection,I just think it should be sorted on the pitch....and if pike had won,which they should of,would anyone have complained

**Tipp Man 2** · 05/04/2007, 8:19 AM

Originally Posted by pearse4t3

i dont no the ruling on Ken Kiely, but a walk-over constitutes a game played which definately makes Coady legal.

the walk over was only officially ratified by the TS&Dl committeee on monday 2nd April and points were added therefore he was illegal... it all comes back to the clonmel town secretary making a big **** up (or chances his arm) on both counts .... simple as that.....

**Town Fan** · 05/04/2007, 8:44 AM

Originally Posted by Tipp Man 2

the walk over was only officially ratified by the TS&Dl committeee on monday 2nd April and points were added therefore he was illegal... it all comes back to the clonmel town secretary making a big **** up (or chances his arm) on both counts .... simple as that.....

Pike won their objection on both counts, Town are out

**Roadend** · 05/04/2007, 8:45 AM

Originally Posted by oscar

would u rather go thru by beating a team and proving ur better,or by objection,I just think it should be sorted on the pitch....and if pike had won,which they should of,would anyone have complained

That's not the point, if you break the rules you suffer the consequences. What would be the point of having rules in the first place if every time someone broke them we'd say "ah sure replay the game, they broke the rules but who wants to progress after the they were kicked out because of cheating"
Honestly you have no grounds for an argument whatsoever.

**silvercircle** · 05/04/2007, 9:34 AM

Originally Posted by oscar

it should be settled with a replay,i know rules are rules but no one would want to advance to the next round on a technicality,although it is pike we're on about

how can it be a technicality..Pike won the appeal on BOTH counts..CTFC fielded 2 illegal players...the fact it is Pike is the basis for your argument...the rules were broken..I have to have sympathy for the CTFC players..if anyone is to blame it is not Pike its the idiot that allowed both players to play.

**Tipp Man 2** · 05/04/2007, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by silvercircle

how can it be a technicality..Pike won the appeal on BOTH counts..CTFC fielded 2 illegal players...the fact it is Pike is the basis for your argument...the rules were broken..I have to have sympathy for the CTFC players..if anyone is to blame it is not Pike its the idiot that allowed both players to play.

here here.. its the secretary or manager whoever is responsibile is to blame.....

**C.T.F.C** · 05/04/2007, 11:09 AM

Originally Posted by silvercircle

how can it be a technicality..Pike won the appeal on BOTH counts..CTFC fielded 2 illegal players...the fact it is Pike is the basis for your argument...the rules were broken..I have to have sympathy for the CTFC players..if anyone is to blame it is not Pike its the idiot that allowed both players to play.

You are spot on- it wasnt a technicality. The munster council have decided that Town broke the rules. Pike were well within their rights to lodge a protest, in much the same way as Town have the right of appeal and beyond.

Originally Posted by Tipp Man 2

here here.. its the secretary or manager whoever is responsibile is to blame.....

We try not to crucify people for genuine mistakes at this club.

**Tipp Man 2** · 05/04/2007, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by C.T.F.C

You are spot on- it wasnt a technicality. The munster council have decided that Town broke the rules. Pike were well within their rights to lodge a protest, in much the same way as Town have the right of appeal and beyond.

We try not to crucify people for genuine mistakes at this club.

fair enough ! !

**munsterman000** · 05/04/2007, 12:56 PM

from Clonmel Town Website......

Town Thrown Out Of Munster - 5th Apr

Pike Rovers of Limerick have won their appeal that Clonmel Town played an illegal player in their recent Munster Junior Cup Quarter Final two weeks ago. As a club we feel very disappointed with the judgement of the Munster Football Association and we feel that we owe to the management and players to take this issue as far as we can. We acknowledge a mistake was made but it was an honest one and the brutality of the decision is not a reflection of this. Also, the club's good name and integrity has now been brought into question and we must now act accordingly to clear our name. It seems comical that one player can be eligible for the FAI Junior Cup, Oscar Traynor Trophy, his own Domestic league and cups but not the Munster Junior Cup. What a joke.

Seems that there will be an appeal

**silvercircle** · 05/04/2007, 1:30 PM

Originally Posted by munsterman000

from Clonmel Town Website......

Town Thrown Out Of Munster - 5th Apr

Pike Rovers of Limerick have won their appeal that Clonmel Town played an illegal player in their recent Munster Junior Cup Quarter Final two weeks ago. As a club we feel very disappointed with the judgement of the Munster Football Association and we feel that we owe to the management and players to take this issue as far as we can. We acknowledge a mistake was made but it was an honest one and the brutality of the decision is not a reflection of this. Also, the club's good name and integrity has now been brought into question and we must now act accordingly to clear our name. It seems comical that one player can be eligible for the FAI Junior Cup, Oscar Traynor Trophy, his own Domestic league and cups but not the Munster Junior Cup. What a joke.

Seems that there will be an appeal

Derek Mccarthy of Pike was eligible to play FAI....OT....and Limerick Prem...but not in the MJC...he has played no part in Pikes MJC campagin !!!!!

**widow** · 05/04/2007, 2:12 PM

same to be said for shane geurin and dave ryan of ballynanty. rules are rules at the end of the day. how many other games on the way to the quarter final did ken kiely play?

**Innishvilla** · 05/04/2007, 4:25 PM

Originally Posted by widow

same to be said for shane geurin and dave ryan of ballynanty. rules are rules at the end of the day. how many other games on the way to the quarter final did ken kiely play?

I think that is another big question... How many other games in the cup run did they play an illegal player?