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**bohs til i die** · 21/10/2006, 3:11 PM

Originally Posted by City till I Die

U r off ur rocker hi!! How can u say that, the decisions he made were scandelous. Rubbish officiating and his linesmen were just as bad. There were several decision i will point out he got wrong:

1: McHugh's sending off was a nothin incident. They both clashed and the Drogs player went down as if he was poleaxed. I was in line and seen it. The linesman obviously saw Gartland go down and assumed the rest.

2: The linesman gave and offside decision when our player was two yards on. Holmes was on the left hand side, lino wasnt up with play and he raised his flag when holmes got in behind defence ready to cross.

3: Linesman on opposite side gave and offside against Drogheda that was a mile on. I think it was Fitzpatrick who was through and lino gave offside. Never offside.

4: Inconsistent refereeing by McKeown. Drogs player nearly took Gareth McGlynns leg off and yet only gave a yellow catd. Was a disgraceful tackle, shud have walked. Same player kicked the ball away and didnt get booked even tho another Drogs player had got booked for same offence minutes earlier.

These are four points that changed the game in different ways. I really hope the refs are shown up for wot they really are, inconsistent and incompetant

3 of those decisions were by the assistant referee's, not by the match referee. The assistants also got several offside decisions wrong which benefitted Derry.

McKeon may have got some decisons wrong but none of them were match altering decisions.

**Aaron** · 21/10/2006, 3:21 PM

McKeon may have got some decisons wrong but none of them were match altering decisions.

Thought u said he got everything pretty much spot on!! He didnt, he was useless

**bohs til i die** · 21/10/2006, 3:22 PM

Originally Posted by City till I Die

Thought u said he got everything pretty much spot on!! He didnt, he was useless

pretty much everything ... the contentious issues you listed were decisions made by the assitant referee's. The referee acted upon information received from his assistant to send a player off. You cannot blame the ref for that

**lofty9** · 21/10/2006, 3:26 PM

The referee last night was incompetant. On a number of occaisions he made blatent errors. The first I recall was the one in which Mark Farren was assaulted by Gartland - he didn't even award a freekick, never mind a card. Secondly, he didn't have the b alls to send of Keegan for his foul in the last ten mins after he was already booked. For me he gave a lot of strange decisions. The refereeing gets worse every week.

As for Derry looking tired, another load of crap. We missed Barry Molloy badly. Deery and Martyn were bullied by the Drogs midfield. Martyn hasn't had a good game without Molloy at his side and was rightly hauled off. I was talking to one of the suspended players last night and he said the squad was buzzing about all the games they had to play, so a pile up of games recently is no excuse, not that we need any.

**WindmillWarrior** · 21/10/2006, 4:19 PM

First half was quite even I thought. No doubt about the 2nd half though! It was all Derry, albeit without creating f*ck all. In fact you could argue that we created the best chance of the game.

McHugh had to go though, it was an elbow, even a couple of Derry fans I was talking to on the way out agreed.

**hoops1** · 21/10/2006, 5:17 PM

Why is it everytime Derry dont win its the refs fault?
McKeon done a decent enough job last night.
Drogheda were overly defensive and Derry didnt have enough to break them down
A draw was a fair result

**Celdrog** · 21/10/2006, 5:28 PM

Originally Posted by City till I Die

1: McHugh's sending off was a nothin incident. They both clashed and the Drogs player went down as if he was poleaxed. I was in line and seen it. The linesman obviously saw Gartland go down and assumed the rest.

Probably because he was poleaxed. I saw it as well (as did the linesman). He belted him in the face ffs.

If you "seen" it then you need to visit This place

**hoopy** · 21/10/2006, 5:31 PM

Derry should ask themselves why some of their players can't pass a ball 10 yards or why, when another team matches them physically, they struggle. Watching the game last night I can understand why Derry fans are annoyed with the ref as we've all be in situations with our own clubs where we think the ref is totally against us, but Derry's lack of creativity will always hinder them when they can't bully teams

**Aaron** · 21/10/2006, 6:10 PM

Originally Posted by hoopy

Derry should ask themselves why some of their players can't pass a ball 10 yards or why, when another team matches them physically, they struggle. Watching the game last night I can understand why Derry fans are annoyed with the ref as we've all be in situations with our own clubs where we think the ref is totally against us, but Derry's lack of creativity will always hinder them when they can't bully teams

I am not taking away the fact that we didnt create enuff chances to win and we didnt deserve to win on the basis of chances.

Originally Posted by hoops1

Why is it everytime Derry dont win its the refs fault?
McKeon done a decent enough job last night.
Drogheda were overly defensive and Derry didnt have enough to break them down
A draw was a fair result

When did i ever blame the ref for us not winning last nite? I never blamed the ref for us not winning, simply said he and his linesmen were inept to say the least.

Originally Posted by celdrog

Probably because he was poleaxed. I saw it as well (as did the linesman). He belted him in the face ffs.

If you "seen" it then you need to visit This place

It was a simple clash were the two of them were grabbing each others shirt, just that when McHugh grabbed Gartland he went down as if he was shot. It was the same last week when Connor was theatrical when Pizza was in his face but didnt touch him and O'Brein playing theatrics to try and get Sean hargan sent off shortly after McHugh went. Cheating b******s, unfortunately the linesman fell for this.

**hoops1** · 21/10/2006, 7:43 PM

Originally Posted by City till I Die

As earlier pointed had it not been for questionable refereeing decisions then there wud have been a different complexion to the game.

That complexion being?

**pineapple stu** · 21/10/2006, 7:45 PM

Originally Posted by bohs til i die

1. You agreed to postpone a game 6 days ahead of your European tie with Gretna. You didnt have to agree to that.

I thought they did have to agree to that. Drogheda requested the postponement and the league agreed, so Derry were given no choice but to go along with it.

**dancinpants** · 21/10/2006, 8:00 PM

Originally Posted by hoopy

but Derry's lack of creativity will always hinder them when they can't bully teams

Seriously? Are you suggesting we win most of our matches purely through bullying the opposition? It has absolutely nothing to do with us being able to play decent football?

**dancinpants** · 21/10/2006, 8:09 PM

Originally Posted by Poor Student

Also, what do Derry fans want? There's so many games to be played in x amount of time. It has to be done. Why are you making it out like an injustice has been carried out against you?

Only one City fan mentioned that in this thread...no need for the plural.

Its a hectic schedule yeah but it sure beats the sh!t out of playing for mid table respectablilty infairness. So I'd stab a guess that the vast majority of City fans aren't overly bothered by the run-in - its kinda of nice to be in the position we're in.

**Aaron** · 21/10/2006, 8:37 PM

That complexion being?

Had mcHugh not been sent-off we might have won the match. Had Fitzpatrick not been flagged offside then Drogs might have scored, therefore they cud have won. Had the ref sent-off the Drogs player who nearly kilt Farren it may have helped our cause. And finally had the ref sent the drogs player who nearly took McGlynns leg off then it wud give us a stronger chance of winning. these questionable decisions were given against both sides, not just us. Just another poor display from the ref

**Aaron** · 21/10/2006, 10:40 PM

did he call the cops in on garto then??

Mite aswell have done!!

Add in the fact that he had a head injury and the ref didnt stop the game. that's some refereeing eh...

**SwanVsDalton** · 22/10/2006, 2:33 AM

McKeon's officiating was pretty awful. Set the tone well when he gave Drogs a goal kick after Farren had knocked it off a Drogs defender. Continued the theme after about 15 minutes when he refused to give City a free after a blatant foul on the left wing but conviently balanced if off by awarding a corner when a Drogheda goal kick was the right call.

Ignored several shouts for handball too, one in particular when a Drogheda player blocked the ball with an arm which was above his head

Some truly bemusing and frustrating decisions for both sets of fans and that's regardless of the McHugh incident because I didn't see it. I'm not about to start another 'Woe is the city' diatribe because that neatly overlooks the fact that we didn't play particuarly well. It's just more shambolic refereeing which is yet again undermining the league.

**hoopy** · 22/10/2006, 8:50 AM

Originally Posted by dancinpants

Seriously? Are you suggesting we win most of our matches purely through bullying the opposition? It has absolutely nothing to do with us being able to play decent football?

Look I don't want to have a go at Derry as you've had a great season so far, all I'm saying is that in the games I've seen Derry play so far this season(granted it's only a handful) they haven't impressed me as a footballing team, but have impressed as a team who's hard to beat. Playing McCourt out wide speaks for itself imop

**pete** · 22/10/2006, 9:48 AM

Originally Posted by City till I Die

We are being punished for being successful, the league made us play a huge amount of games in a space of time, not many teams cud do that.

You postponed games too easily & some the Drogs game from last week should have been played in JULY. Also you took far too long to re-arrange the Shels game you playing next week. I would have sympathy if you had made effort to play those games. Come back to me when the eL forces you to play an FAI Cup game 2 days afer travelling back from euorpean game which happened us.

**bohs til i die** · 22/10/2006, 9:59 AM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

I thought they did have to agree to that. Drogheda requested the postponement and the league agreed, so Derry were given no choice but to go along with it.

AFAIK both clubs have to agree to a postponement if it is requested within 14days of the fixture. The game in July was postponed a week or so before it was due to take place from what I recall.

**R�iteoir** · 23/10/2006, 12:55 AM

Originally Posted by bohs til i die

1. You agreed to postpone a game 6 days ahead of your European tie with Gretna. You didnt have to agree to that.

2. Derry were one of the better teams to watch earlier in the season but last night they didnt know how to break down Drogheda. One good clear chance in 90 minutes is a poor return.

3. There was no questionable decisions by Dave McKeon last night. I didnt see the whole 90 minutes [saw about 70 minutes of the game] and he got everything pretty much spot on. Derry got very lucky with 4 offsides given against Drogheda. 0

4. Drogheda defended from 1st minute to last and Derry had loads of possession but it was all outside the Drogheda penalty area. Any team can look good with tons of possession but Derry did very little with it to trouble Dan Connor.

5. Derry havent just got on with it. There have been several newspaper interviews with Stephen Kenny were he claims Derry are being asked to undertake an unprecedented run of games [which is bullsh1t because Kenny landed Bohs with a much worse run in 2003 for the exact same reason]. If Derry had re-arranged the first postponement with Drogheda earlier during the summer and not agreed to postpone the game in August you'd have 2 less games to fit in. Thats down to the decison made by your manager and board. Not the league.

Pretty much spot on btid.

Originally Posted by City till I Die

1: McHugh's sending off was a nothin incident. They both clashed and the Drogs player went down as if he was poleaxed. I was in line and seen it. The linesman obviously saw Gartland go down and assumed the rest.

Let's see if when someone gives you an elbow in the face if you then call it a "nothing incident"

One final piece of advice - cut the "text speak" out - I have enough trouble trying to understand your posts as it is...