who in the name of Gdod is Fat Keane?
And let me tell u, i would swap Duff for Bellamy every time
At least Bellamy is effective and does something
He does more than Duff!!
ya, IRISH Liverpool fans..........
this is my point! we are as guilty of over rating our own as the english are!!
bet none of them would swap him back now, cos duff has been such a revalation at newcastle.......not!
He's played about 7 games. The team he plays in is sh**e anyway so he suffers as a result. I was wrong earlier you're Welsh aren't you? Bellamy better than Duff? Stay off the gear. Yeah Eddie Mc Goldrick is better than Pele and David Healy is better than Georgie Best also.
Last edited by youngirish; 19/10/2006 at 3:52 PM.
Anyone who gets that MacShane E mail should add a bit before sending it on...
Lads you cant compare Bellamy and Duff. One is a left winnger the other is a striker. Not a fair comparision.
In Trap we trust
When I read Collyontour's account of the McShane story, my first reaction was to wonder why Staunton wasn't saying it.
Why not "cut out the middleman" (captain) and promote McShane to manager?
Anyhow, on a more general note about the players, I can't help thinking that it doesn't matter so much whether the players are actually world-class, club class, or remedial class etc.
Rather, the question is whether they are as good as they ought to be when they pull on the shirt and if not, why?
It seems to me that several are simply not playing anything like as well as they should. The time to determine whether the team should be qualifying for tournaments, beating the Czechs etc need only be addressed after that issue is fixed.
I think we the argument of if we have a great team or a rubbish team is pretty pointless. Ireland has always been a team with a few excellent players and more average who perform above there station. If football was all about the best squad we would never in our history have held a candle to holland, england, france, etc.
An ceannaire, you moan about us having nearly no good players and not being even close to sweden in terms of quality. here is the sweden squad that came to lansdowne:
Goalkeepers: Eddie Gustafsson (Ham-Kam), Andreas Isaksson (Stade Rennes)
Defenders: Christoffer Andersson (Lillestrom), Mikael Dorsin (Rosenborg Trondheim), Erik Edman (Stade Rennes), Petter Hansson (Heerenveen), Teddy Lucic (BK Hacken), Olof Mellberg (Aston Villa), Alexander Ostlund (Southampton)
Midfielders: Daniel Andersson (Malmo), Niclas Alexandersson (IFK Gothenburg), Kim Kallstrom (Stade Rennes), Tobias Linderoth (FC Copenhagen), Christian Wilhelmsson (Anderlecht), Anders Svensson (Elfsborg), Fredrik Ljungberg (Arsenal)
Forwards: Marcus Allback (FC Copenhagen), Johan Elmander (Brondby), Zlatan Ibrahimovic (Juventus), Mattias Jonson (Djurgarden), Henrik Larsson (Barcelona), Markus Rosenberg (Ajax Amsterdam)
The only players here i would describe as really impressive would be Kallstrom, Ljungberg, Larrson and Ibrahmovic (although there are big hopes for Elmander). Some of these players play for swedish teams that have been beaten by Eircom League teams in recent years. The fact is they are a group of well organised average players that play above their station. That is exactly what we should be aiming for. As i see it our squad on paper is as good as this one.
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