A New Low - the North Overtake Us

**Qwerty** · 18/10/2006, 10:16 PM

England at #5? These rankings mean nothing. English su ck and have done for years. The only improvement in these rankings is that the USA is at 29 and Mexico at 19.

We will go back up the rankings, I really was struck by what David Healy said about the Norn Iron setup and that was that the squad loved to get together and their team spirit was great, this used to be the case with Ireland, hopefully Stan can restore that. That really is the key along with sending out well prepared and motivated teams with reasonable selection policies.

**Donal81** · 19/10/2006, 8:18 AM

Originally Posted by Not Brazil

Obviously Colin is a comedian.

Where is Windsor Road?

Windsor Park, sorry sir.

**Donal81** · 19/10/2006, 8:27 AM

Originally Posted by Andyh

What a load of crap! because some (rubbish) comedian said it you believe its true. Why would he be walking past Windsor Park - in the loyalist village area of South Belfast??? Catholics rarely just dander by. Windsor Road doesn't exist as far as I'm aware. But sure just an easy dig at bigotted nordies eh?

Blimey, the pedants are out in force. Windsor Park, Windsor Park, Windsor Park, so sorry. Take the Colin Murphy gag personally if you want, a comedian was making a joke, as they tend to do, I was just passing it on.

If you read the rest of my post, it was complimenting the Northern Irish team. It's an element of their support that I can't stand, I was passing on a joke I had heard about it recently, no need to get all worked up.

**drummerboy** · 19/10/2006, 8:29 AM

One of the reasons Delaney gave for not renewing Brian Kerr's contract was the fact the we had slipped in the rankings. Think we fell from about 14th to 25th. Now we have fallen from 25th under Staunton to 49th. Wonder what Delaney will do.

**Dassa** · 19/10/2006, 9:05 AM

Originally Posted by citizenerased

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This comment alone is sectarian and surely comments like this arent on. I thought this was a football forum.

**Dassa** · 19/10/2006, 9:07 AM

Originally Posted by Paddy Garcia

Or given that it is an international venue, it is more related to the fact that rangers are not too keen on signing Irish players.

Rangers have signed many Irish players, they may not be from ROI but they are from the Island of Ireland so this comment is inacurrate.

**Not Brazil** · 19/10/2006, 9:09 AM

Originally Posted by crc

The old system of rankings was at least broadly plausible, but the current method can absolutely not be taken seriously when
http://football.guardian.co.uk/comme...871529,00.html

Italy are currently ranked 2nd in the world - England 5th.

**Not Brazil** · 19/10/2006, 9:13 AM

Originally Posted by Donal81

It's an element of their support that I can't stand,

There's an element of the ROI support that I cannot stand - those that engage in political, anti British (many born on the island of Ireland are British/Irish), pro IRA chanting - but, in the main, I think the ROI support is fantastic.

**Not Brazil** · 19/10/2006, 9:18 AM

Originally Posted by citizenerased

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The only thing shameful is your disgraceful comments about the cross community Northern Ireland team.

"Those who wish to live in the past and apply outdated labels to all Northern Ireland fans are the real bigots"

Kenny Archer
Irish News 14/09/05

**gspain** · 19/10/2006, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by Dassa

Rangers have signed many Irish players, they may not be from ROI but they are from the Island of Ireland so this comment is inacurrate.

Actually 3 players from the Republic have played for Rangers (all pre WW2) the most well known being Alex Stevenson who played for Dolphin and later Everton also. He was capped for both NI and RoI. in fact Rangers came to Dalymount to play in a friendly as part of the transfer deal in 1933.

**gspain** · 19/10/2006, 10:30 AM

I think it is embarrassingly that we are below Northern Ireland in the rankings. Their squad is made up mainly of lower division players who are not as good as ours. Their team however is clearly better at the moment.

**Dodge** · 19/10/2006, 10:33 AM

And he later managed Pats to great success. I'm actually trying to research him now gspain so if you have anything on him I'd appreciate any help. PM me if you can...

(No hassle if you can't)

**Dodge** · 19/10/2006, 10:41 AM

citizenerased, Don't post rubbish like that here. This is a final warning

**RogerMilla** · 19/10/2006, 10:50 AM

gsapin has hit the nail on the head , NI are punching above their weight and fair play to them , we are obviously nowhere near the standard we should be for the quality of player we have and our ability to start 11 top premiership players when our squad is fully fit. We should have bloody hammered cyprus away and we should have beaten the czechs at home too.

**Dodge** · 19/10/2006, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by RogerMilla

our ability to start 11 top premiership players

I challenge you to back this claim up

**Donal81** · 19/10/2006, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by Not Brazil

There's an element of the ROI support that I cannot stand - those that engage in political, anti British (many born on the island of Ireland are British/Irish), pro IRA chanting - but, in the main, I think the ROI support is fantastic.

And if you check my posts on this site, I've always said how pathetic those clowns are in Lansdowne Road, as are those who find some way of justifying them. I should have added this to my last comment for balance, I suppose. My original point was that I love what the North is doing now, making the most of the average players at its disposal, while our chancers, some of whom are considered to be top Premiership players, got trollied by Cyprus.

I suppose my views on Windsor Park will always be tainted by 1993. The anti-Irish abuse I expected and could understand and still would today and the times were different - but I'll never understand the monkey chants.

**eirebhoy** · 19/10/2006, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by crc

The old system of rankings was at least broadly plausible, but the current method can absolutely not be taken seriously when
http://football.guardian.co.uk/comme...871529,00.html

You just fluctuate a lot more with these rankings. We won't be lying 15th for 2 years any more.

We could easily be in the top 20 within the next few months.

**Billsthoughts** · 19/10/2006, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by Not Brazil

There's an element of the ROI support that I cannot stand - those that engage in political, anti British (many born on the island of Ireland are British/Irish), pro IRA chanting - but, in the main, I think the ROI support is fantastic.

pro IRA chanting?
when was that? NEVER EVER once heard it at a match

**Not Brazil** · 19/10/2006, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by Billsthoughts

pro IRA chanting?
when was that? NEVER EVER once heard it at a match

You've never heard the "add ons" to "The Fields"?

I was merely being guided by the observations of your fellow ROI fans on this very Board on various occassions.

**as_i_say** · 19/10/2006, 12:17 PM

i have deffo heard pro ira chanting at some games at landsdowne but thats been from the celtic shirt wearing under 20 moronic population. I agree with donals views about 1993-i will never forget that i dont think. Also agree that the north support has improved a lot.

there was a discussion on this board a while back about "british flags" at windsor as opposed to the northern flag itself and it seems now that the loyal supporter is really supporting NI as a team itself and have identified themselves with that rather than flying the UJ which i could never see the point of at a NI game. (you wont see too many UJ's at hampden for exapmle)

Anyway yeah hopefully form will be restored and we'll see healy and co losing friendlies to canada and on the back of a 0-5 in spain.

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