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    Quote Originally Posted by sligonproud View Post
    honest to jaysus....why do you shams fans hav to be like this all of the time...someone else is getting a bit of attention and ur simply jealous cause u hav had none for some time and there is houses on ur ground
    ur the ones with the "great" links up north, and as was said before, ur mates in belfast mightnt agree with ur statements.....this ist aimed at all shams fans either,, just the 1 or 2 that decided to post their metadone induced drivvvle on this subject!! fair play derry.good coverage for a great club....see yehs in a couple of weeks!
    Quality It's between this and dcfcstalker's last post here for the award for absolute lunacy.

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    Last edited by A face; 18/10/2006 at 12:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcfc_1928 View Post
    I wonder if RTE get any money from Sky, for retransmtting their channels into the North via satellite?

    Do RTE count Northern Irish viewers in their viewing figures?

    If the answer to either of the above questions is yes, then viewers in NI also partly fund RTE through subscriptions and advertising revenue.
    of course they count the viewing figures, and are in direct competition with UTV for advertising revenue,

    and what the one rovers muppet failed to read is that a large section of our support (me included and ORA above for a start) actually does pay for a tv licience, and do have a right to complain,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krstic View Post
    The fact that The Donegal Villages of Muff,
    How could any organisation take seriously the views of people that live in
    a village named after a ladies genitals.
    Champions 2010
    Champions 2011
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    Bohs are going bust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garyderry View Post
    of course they count the viewing figures, and are in direct competition with UTV for advertising revenue,

    and what the one rovers muppet failed to read is that a large section of our support (me included and ORA above for a start) actually does pay for a tv licience, and do have a right to complain,

    Fair enough any individual who is resident in the ROI and pays their RTE licence fee is entitled to complaing about anything that is or isn't shown on RTE. So following your logic no doubt we'll expect that RTE in future will start to show live Polish matches, the odd nigerian game etc to cater for the requirements of the 400,000 people who have come to live here.Or maybe RTE will continue to feature items that they feel are of generous interest to a sizeable proportion of the 26 counties viewing public... that's a "call" they are entitled to make

    Still IMO Derry City as an entity aren't entitled to moan about lack of coverage on RTE.... to the best of my knowledge Derry City FC is still located in Northern Ireland and thus the ROI's national broadcaster RTE owes them nothing... so as I say why don't you just relocate to your own local league .... the Eircom league accomdated you at a time when you couldn't play locally, you should now be good enough to thank us for that and go back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sligonproud View Post
    god almighty....

    I thought this was meant to be a discussion board... care to engage in some rational debate or is the above the best you have to offer ?
    Last edited by A face; 18/10/2006 at 12:10 PM.

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    Way above judging by his posts.

    Calcio what you are saying is very controversial


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    Quote Originally Posted by sligonproud View Post
    no its just the stupidness of that post astounded me lads....this started out as a well deserved pat on the back for derry, and a comment saying rte dont seem to b doing much to propmote our national league...one is well deserved, the other tue...so whats the problem?? anygood publicity for the league r a team in it is welcome....derry, who may not be in the republic of ireland are part of the league ( or the one above, in your case ) that our teams play in, so would a well done for being in the lime light not go astray? rather than nit picking, cause your team is in a lower league...i didnt see any one from other clubs bring an issueup with the post........
    Well what's stupid for one man is a work of genius for another, so suggest you engage in the normal protocol of accepting that others have the right to express their views without then having to enjure immature name calling such as your use of the word "gimp".....

    In relation to the issue in question... I don't have any problem with the league receiving some good exposure...God knows now we are under the auspicies of the FAI we'll need every bit we can get.

    My issue is with what I see as a continous attitude of moaning that seems to emanate from Derry (Kenny's recent outburst frankly was emabarassing) and IMO I don't believe that Derry City FC are entitled to make such comments, of course that doesn't mean I don't acknowledge their right to make them. Also if Derry City FC are that unhappy with both RTE and the FAI, they do have the option of relocating back to the Irish League. On that point I feel quiet strongly, in that I think they should now be politely asked to return there. They joined as I said before the LOI under extraordinary circumstances and as those circumstances no longer pertain I think the debate re Derry remaining in the Eircom League needs to be opened up.

    At a time when the FAI are looking for a new team to apply to join the league, I would doubt very much that they would entertain an application from a team based in the North.... thus following that logic surely it is time to request Derry ity to return to the Irish league, would you agree ??

    Finally saying I am nitpicking about this because Rovers are currently playing in Div 1, IMO is frankly nonsensical, why would that make any difference to my argument...perhaps you'd like to explain ??
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    In other words - the jumped-up northerners have the cheek to complain about something and they should feck off back to where they came from?!?!

    Perhaps Cork City should be told to join the Munster Senior League, after Rico's complaints earlier in the season?

    Dublin & District League - thats what some people want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sligonproud View Post
    i dont think they should be asked to leave firstly...without doubt imho they have the best fans in the league and bring an awful lot to it...their european exploits have been a great advertisement for the league, a number of people i know who dont follow the eague have even commentyed that it must be getting much better - this is alwaysw welcome as they mite decide to take in a few games...with regards to the fact yous are in div 1, i think theres a bit of jealousy on your behaf...being the "big club" and al that...i may b wrong but as you said, people are entitled to their opinion....another note - has there been any trouble with derry fans this year or in any recent years....the same question doesnt need to b asked about shams, as it answers itself with a most bdefinate YES - another reason why they are a great additrion to the league...if we are talking about promoting the league in a positive manner, then maybe a team that can be replaced lies a little bit closer to home than you think...and im not talking about bohis

    Whatever about the valaditity of this argument, I don't a Sligo fan can get on any moral high-horse regarding behaviour of fans.

    Yes, Derry fans are well behaved. As is the majority of clubs in the eL. Rovers do have their problems, as do a few other clubs with Sligo being one of them.

    Getting back to the point -

    A. Fantastic clip and will only shed Derry and the league on a whole in a good light.

    B. Any club on this island would have been waiting a long day in hell for RTE to do something similar. All the same, BBC don't show eL games live (nor IL for that matter), while RTE do.

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    [QUOTE=dcfc_1928;558272]In other words - the jumped-up northerners have the cheek to complain about something and they should feck off back to where they came from?!?!

    Is that not a tad over the top and and a very disrespectful way to refer them ?

    To be clear on this I think a rational debate is required in relation to Derry City's continued membership of the Eircom league... in fact I'd like to see it widened to include a debate about an all Ireland league. However unless we are going to develop an all Ireland League... then I'm of the view that Derry C should retunr to the Irish League as IMO that is their natural home and their membership of the Eircom should only be a tempoary arrangement brought by circumstances that no longer exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sligonproud View Post
    i dont think they should be asked to leave firstly...without doubt imho they have the best fans in the league and bring an awful lot to it...their european exploits have been a great advertisement for the league, a number of people i know who dont follow the eague have even commentyed that it must be getting much better - this is alwaysw welcome as they mite decide to take in a few games...with regards to the fact yous are in div 1, i think theres a bit of jealousy on your behaf...being the "big club" and al that...i may b wrong but as you said, people are entitled to their opinion....another note - has there been any trouble with derry fans this year or in any recent years....the same question doesnt need to b asked about shams, as it answers itself with a most bdefinate YES - another reason why they are a great additrion to the league...if we are talking about promoting the league in a positive manner, then maybe a team that can be replaced lies a little bit closer to home than you think...and im not talking about bohis
    Regarding the point as to whether Derry should remain in the Eircom league...accept you have your view but disagree with it.

    Your incorrect assumption that I may be jealous is absurd. For me as a Rovers fan of over 30 years , whilst it may be disappointing that we are currently in Div 1, I have the unique IMO joy that every Rovers fan has of knowing in our hearts that we have a history and a future that allows us to bless the day that we were fortunate to be born into the "Rovers" family...so from our perspective jealousy isn't on the radar screen... indeed in my more reflective moments I feel nothing but a gentle pity for those of you who will never be able to share in the experience of being a fan of "Rovers" indeed I feel your life is something of a sham.

    As for your comment about replacing a team closer to home.... well if you think that Sligo should be replaced then that surprises me...but no doubt you have your reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calcio Jack View Post
    I feel nothing but a gentle pity for those of you who will never be able to share in the experience of being a fan of "Rovers" indeed I feel your life is something of a sham.

    As for your comment about replacing a team closer to home.... well if you think that Sligo should be replaced then that surprises me...but no doubt you have your reasons.
    While I dont agree that Derry should be excluded from the league (IMO monaghan should not be in it as they bring nothing to it) the above is quality



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    I've said it all along one thing the league needs is Marketing with High production values. If the Beeb can make derry look like a top european club then there is no reason RTE cant make the whole league look half decent. with a bit of clever editing and a good soundtrack a 30 sec. ad could make huge differences in attendances here

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    " instead of moaning about our National TV station to whom the residents of Derry don't pay any licence fee for the very good reason that they are residents of a foreign jurisdiction..."[/QUOTE]

    More the fool you for paying a licence to a National station that doesnt give a hoot about our standing in international club football because they are too busy covering local tribal squabbles in games that no other nation has even heard about never mind plays.

    "And when my nation take its place among the nations of the Earth,then and only then shall my epitaph be written" Robert Emmett(paraphrasing)

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    Here we go again.

    Why is it always Shamrock Rovers fans who ahve to drag everything down in this forum ? Get over yourselves.....

    I raised the point that RTE wouldn't do something similar to the BBC ident. That doesn't say that I was demanding that RTE do something similar for Derry (what would be the point ?), nor does that represent an official DCFC statement. It means somethign similar for the other EL teams - you know, the ones in the Republic who have RTE as their national broadcaster. If teh likes of Calcio would rather let RTE off the hook and try to turn this debate into whether o ntDCFC should be in the Eircom League, then that actually puts you in a worse light than the goons in Donnybrook !

    Incidentally - why is it always only Rovers fans who have a perverse fascination with Derry being a northern team, and all associated issues such as Sterling, the Queen etc ? Even Linfield fans have never felt the need to make an issue out of anything like that. I can only conclude that since Rovers's fans discovered Bohs unionist beginnings as a club, they have felt the need to embark on their usual petty one-upmanship by looking to out-orange them and any other team on the island.

    Shamrock Rangers FC - The Loyalist Team of the 26 occupied counties....

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    Your last post shows you cannot be taken seriously.

    One Rovers fan professes an opinion that Derry should not be in the league. I dont agree with it but he has the right to say so.

    You are completely obsessed with Rovers and Rovers fans.

    Talk of unionism and trying to out-orange each other is pathetic drivel consistent with the mind of a two year old. And the only consistency from you is WUMming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcfcsteve View Post
    Here we go again.

    Why is it always Shamrock Rovers fans who ahve to drag everything down in this forum ? Get over yourselves.....

    I raised the point that RTE wouldn't do something similar to the BBC ident. That doesn't say that I was demanding that RTE do something similar for Derry (what would be the point ?), nor does that represent an official DCFC statement. It means somethign similar for the other EL teams - you know, the ones in the Republic who have RTE as their national broadcaster. If teh likes of Calcio would rather let RTE off the hook and try to turn this debate into whether o ntDCFC should be in the Eircom League, then that actually puts you in a worse light than the goons in Donnybrook !

    Incidentally - why is it always only Rovers fans who have a perverse fascination with Derry being a northern team, and all associated issues such as Sterling, the Queen etc ? Even Linfield fans have never felt the need to make an issue out of anything like that. I can only conclude that since Rovers's fans discovered Bohs unionist beginnings as a club, they have felt the need to embark on their usual petty one-upmanship by looking to out-orange them and any other team on the island.

    Shamrock Rangers FC - The Loyalist Team of the 26 occupied counties....

    And you accuse Rovers fans of dragging things down on this forum...

    I for one don't have any "perverse fascination with Derry being a Northern team" I do however think it is time for them to return their home league.... if you find that perverse fair enough, I think it is the logical conclusion based on the fact that you in the past were a member of that league.

    I do agree RTE could do more to promote the Eircom League but I am glad our manager doesn't spend his time on the air moaning about it. I do also stand over my contention that supporters and or spokes persons for Derry have a lesser entitlement to expect coverage from RTE than other 26 county based clubs have.

    Your comments re Rovers and us out Oranging Bohs and calling us The Loyalist Team of the occupied 26 counties is IMO an insult not only to Rovers fans but also every citizen of the 26 counties. Furthermore it exposes a puerile nasty side to your character,which frankly adds nothing but a dose of bile to this debate and I think you might like to reconsider those comments and hopefully have the decency to withdraw them and I in turn will then have the graceiousness to accept that it was an unfortunate error of judgement that led yo to use them in the first instance..... or we could just forget about it have a laugh and move on
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calcio Jack View Post
    I for one don't have any "perverse fascination with Derry being a Northern team" I do however think it is time for them to return their home league.... if you find that perverse fair enough, I think it is the logical conclusion based on the fact that you in the past were a member of that league.
    Feel free to start a different thread on this topic then.

    It would come down to a case of 'does the EL benefit from Derry's presence or not', and despite your little agenda I'm sure the vast majority on foot.ie will claim it does.

    As for the notion of 'going back where we belong' - soccer in the Republic as a whole was actually a post-partition break-away movement from the Irish League in the north. Like Derry, Bohs and Shels were also former members of the Belfast-based Irish League. Perhaps the only natural conclusion that can therefore be drawn from your arguement is that we should all 'go back' to a single administration run out of Belfast - a sentiment that I would wholeheartedly support.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NY Hoop View Post
    Your last post shows you cannot be taken seriously.

    One Rovers fan professes an opinion that Derry should not be in the league. I dont agree with it but he has the right to say so.

    You are completely obsessed with Rovers and Rovers fans.

    Talk of unionism and trying to out-orange each other is pathetic drivel consistent with the mind of a two year old. And the only consistency from you is WUMming.

    KOH
    Still smarting I see from making a fool of yourself on that thread re Wimbledon...

    As they used to say in the Budweiser ads "Let it go Louis, let it go....."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcfcsteve View Post
    Still smarting I see from making a fool of yourself on that thread re Wimbledon...

    As they used to say in the Budweiser ads "Let it go Louis, let it go....."
    Dear Obsessed,

    It is very clear to all on this site who the fool is when you look at what you have posted. But feel free to ignore the valid points I made.

    A nasty side to your character alright. And you're in politics?

    KOH

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