QuoteMakes me fell better when people knock meOriginally Posted by NeilMcD
agreed apart from the fact hes an arrogant ****** hes a brilliant footballer, (our top goalscorer ever) and that's all i care
Keane is class act simple as that, this country loves to knock the people that are actualy talented Roy Keane, Bono, The Edge, and many many more
In Trap we trust
Makes me fell better when people knock me
Often you will find that people who are high achievers are tossers or have personality issues its the way of the world.
In Trap we trust
Ive often been called a tosser and I have personality issues does this make me a high achiever?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY3NxPMYaAw
Hoddle knew to play Robbie like that, running off the last line of defence and he had a good partner in Sherringham.
It looks to me that Berbatov has to be told by Robbie a lot of the time where to lay off the ball.
Not at all, have you ever seen Berbatove when playing with Defoe, he goes mad and he tells him what to do etc and it drives him nuts cause Defoe is clueless and I would say he is a nightmare to play with unless you were Niall Quinn or Drogba or Kenwyne Jones or something. Berbatove and Keane have a great footballing partnership because they are both clever players and Keane in my opinion is the better player over the last year than Berbatov and his attitude has been much better too.
In Trap we trust
Word of advice mate, I'd give up the coke if you're not sure it even gets you high.Ive often been called a tosser and I have personality issues does this make me a high achiever?
It's good to see him continue to play so well. It amazes me how much credit Berbatov gets when Robbie is outplaying him (and is also more consistent). Hopefully if we can get a decent manager in he can start producing effectively for Ireland.
yeah you would think that Sky are getting a cut of any possible Berbatov transfer the way they were gushing on about him last night. Fact of the matter is, that as a combination, Keane and Berbatov work extremely well together and the media don't seem to identify this fact at all. I would love to see the stats of how Berbatov has performed for Spurs alongside Keane against how he has done beside Defoe/Bent.....would any of the statisticians amongst us have that sort of info?
"Well I think they'll be a little disappointed with that" - Matt Holland on TV3 after 5-2 drubbing by Cyprus
Totally agree Doc!........slightly off topic...what did you think of Defoe's new haircut?....do you think his hairdresser had a siezure mid way through?
Tact is for people who are not witty enough to be sarcastic
Yep, it was all about Berbatov last night. Drove me mad. Mind, as an Arsenal fan the whole game drove me mad too!
Keane has lost weight, looks miles fitter than before.
Great performance by Keane and shows what he can do when he has the service.
Wouldn't worry too much about the commentary. Alan Parry habitually uses "brilliant" for anything slightly above normal and Ray Wilkins wasn't far behind last night. I thought it was a strange decision to take off Malbranque (and they scored shortly afterwards). Berbatov was excellent but for me our Robbie was motm.
I wish he would stop pointing all the time though
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
I think when you take Keane out of the Spurs team you take most of the life out of their team. As someone else said, replace Keane with Defoe and you also get a very frustrated Berbatov.
"He is a phenomenon.
"He is ready to play and he has some incredible moves in training, especially when it comes to dribbling.
"He's more or less in my position and I can tell you that he has just as good a chance as me of playing."
That was Seedorf talking 7 years ago. Keane has improved every season since then. It's interesting that Seedorf regarded him as an attacking midfielder then.
Strikers may come and go but Keane is a constant for Spurs
David Hytner
Friday January 18, 2008
The Guardian
When Dimitar Berbatov was dominating the headlines at the beginning of the month, after his agent's announcement that he wanted a move to a bigger club, one of the talking points concerned how his Tottenham Hotspur team-mates would subsequently regard him.
The opinion of one dressing-room insider was illuminating. "It will be interesting to see what Robbie Keane has to say," said the source. "Robbie is hugely influential and the others take their lead from him."
The circle has turned for Keane and the Dubliner has not only become the key figure on the playing staff but has emerged as the one constant in the club's tale of four strikers. He cannot have said anything incendiary about Berbatov and the spotlight has drifted away from the Bulgarian - his future will be back on the agenda in the summer but meanwhile those of Jermain Defoe and Darren Bent continue to be debated. Defoe says that the manager, Juande Ramos, is content to let him leave and the interest from Aston Villa beats louder and louder. Portsmouth, too, and Newcastle would like to take him. Bent, meanwhile, has not found form since his £16.5m summer arrival from Charlton Athletic and has had to suffer "waste of money" whispers.
Ramos has seen little persuasive from him and in the background the sporting director, Damien Comolli, has been looking for a new striker. He has had discussions about Fred, the Brazilian international at Lyon, only for the player to declare yesterday that he was staying put.
Keane in the past has had to live with question marks over his Tottenham future. He has had to battle for his place and during his spells out of the team he might have been tempted elsewhere. But he has endured and after a spectacular calendar year in 2007, when he scored 31 goals for the club in all competitions, he has challenged a clutch of perceptions.
When he arrived at White Hart Lane he had played for Wolverhampton Wanderers, Coventry, Internazionale and Leeds inside four years. But that was the summer of 2002. Keane is a nomad no more.
He is also becoming recognised as a goalscorer rather than a scorer of great goals. Although the epithet of "prolific" has not yet attached itself, he has consistently been the club's leading Premier League scorer and he finished last season with 22 goals in all competitions. He has 15 so far this time out, to promise an even greater return, and he is now only one short of his century for the club. He brushes aside talk of personal landmarks, though, to see the bigger picture.
"The cups are very important but so is the Premier League because we want to get into the Uefa Cup [via league position] and that is still not out of our reach by any means," he said. "We proved that over the last couple of years."
Keane has proved himself time and again and, with uncertainty in the air, Ramos can be thankful that he intends to keep doing so.
Keane the enigma
By James Lawton
Friday January 18 2008
Would it be wickedly sardonic of Roy Keane to speculate on how much easier his task would be this weekend if one of the chief threats to his Sunderland relegation fighters at White Hart Lane was wearing a green rather than a white shirt?
Probably, but then nobody does it better than Keano and surely it is also true that few followers of the Republic of Ireland have failed to notice the performance gulf which separates his namesake Robbie of Spurs from the one who has performed for so long for the national team.
We have a cluster of contrasts and ironies here. While Roy railed against what he considered the inadequacies of Ireland's big-match preparations, his form for his country was as seamlessly committed as it was for his paymasters Manchester United. This Keane knew only one way to play whenever he played, and the colour of his shirt was plainly incidental.
Yes, he performed the most gut-wrenching act of insurrection before World Cup 2002, but it was Roy Keane who carried Ireland there -- and virtually on one leg in the decisive qualifier against the Netherlands.
The same cannot quite be said for the hero of Spurs, the selfless, fiercely scuffling scorer Robbie, who is now just one short of his 100th goal for Tottenham.
Of course, you have to give unto Robbie what is his and this most significantly includes the fact that he has made an imperishable mark on Irish football with his record tally of 32 goals in 78 international games, which is after all in the taller foothills of Bobby Charlton's legendary total of 49 for England in 106 appearances. But then you know what they say about statistics.
Broke
Robbie Keane is not for Ireland what he has been, for at least some of the time, for a succession of clubs from when he broke the British transfer record of £6m for a teenager when moving from Wolves to Coventry, and the growing suspicion at the approach of the dawn of a new Irish regime is that he is not likely to be.
At 27, Robbie Keane is perhaps an extraordinary enigma, a bright, self-motivated pro who has found his way, albeit through a few thickets of confusion, to a consistently high-impact level of performance in the Premier League but who cannot, despite the worthiest of declarations, find the same passion for his country.
Or maybe the truth is rather more brutal. Maybe Robbie Keane simply remembers most vividly where his richest butter is spread. Certainly, his record and current form for Spurs sharply contrasts with his often insipid contribution to the failed regime of Steve Staunton. For the tenderfoot international coach Staunton, Keane seemed like a ready-made leader, a man upon whom to bestow both the captaincy and untouchable status. Keane sailed on beyond inquest or correction, however poor the Irish team performance.
Yet for Spurs he has resembled a one-man improvement programme. Perhaps he simply responded well to an authority figure, a status that was sadly beyond the tyro Staunton.
Martin Jol had it before the Tottenham board cut the ground from under his feet -- and he pushed Keane to his most valuable time of self-examination in the spring of 2005 when imposing a £10,000 fine and banishment to reserve team training. The betting had to be on Keane packing his bags and adding another, perhaps sharply less prestigious club to his list of ultimately frustrated employers.
Instead, Keane of course re-invented himself. He became integral to the spirit -- and the scoring potential -- of Spurs. He overtook Jermain Defoe, who was once heralded as the natural successor to Michael Owen in the England team and, more recently, he has fought off the expensive challenge of another England player, Darren Bent. He is the natural foil for the remarkably gifted Dimitar Berbatov and a potent weapon in his own right, as he proved with his 15th goal of the season in the mid-week victory at Reading, which set up a fourth Round FA Cup visit to Old Trafford.
Keane had only words for the team after his latest splash of headlines. "As a striker you are judged on getting goals and it is always important to score and get your confidence up," he said. "I've been lucky enough to score a few this season, but it is not about me, it is about the team."
That would have sounded a lot more platitudinous if you didn't remember the testament of former Spurs player Edgar Davids, the ferociously committed Dutch midfielder.
Genuine
Davids claimed that it was the passions aroused in a training ground fight between Keane and himself that provoked Spurs into a genuine sense of a team -- one capable of making a first serious run towards Champions League qualification.
Now under the tough new manager Juande Ramos, Keane's commitment appears to have re-doubled yet again. Recently Massimo Moratti, the president of Internazionale for whom Keane played just nine games -- and scored one goal -- said: "Looking at Keane today, I have to regret he left us so quickly . . . he looks like a perfect player."
Well, maybe not perfect. Not as exquisitely balanced as his team-mate Berbatov, perhaps, but certainly a force of will and ambition, which makes him increasingly a key figure in the team.
The other Keane will no doubt have absorbed all of this as he outlines another vital game-plan. And, perhaps inevitably, smiles that sardonic smile.
- James Lawton
"If God had meant football to be played in the air, he'd have put grass in the sky." Brian Clough.
You'll NEVER beat the Irish.......you'll just draw with us instead!!!
I don't understand people questioning his commitment and work rate when playing for Ireland.
I don't question his commitment or work-rate but I do question his efficiency.
For Spurs (from my limited viewing of them) his strength seems to be getting into the right(goalscoring) positions. Then he gets the chances and scores.
However with Ireland he seems to think he needs to go get the ball rather than pick up these positions in the box and ends up in midfield and on the wings at times we need him in the box to score.
I think the captaincy has had an negative influence on this.
No problem with his Irish work rate, just his concentration. I think he has difficulty balancing the yin of Robbie Keane - Ice Cool Hitman with the Yang of Robbie Keane, Captain.
On the way into the stadium, an elderly San Marino Steward waved us in and said "Tonight, may the best team win"
And they nearly did.
Well any player that constantly ignores managers instructions should be dropped. He could be just doing what the manager wants though. His best form in recent years has been partnering Morrison.
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