Robbie Keane

[finnpark]

Surely the person who started the thread should be dropped and kicked out for talking such rubbish. Where did you get your facts but you were clearly wrong.

RTE sport.

I think that he will be dropped very soon. He doesn't score goals. How people on here rate him higher than Kevin Doyle I will never know.

[paul_oshea]

well then I will rephrase it. its posting like the ones above that ruin the forum. there is a report post button and moderators. I dont see why people need to post things like "close this thread now" and correcting peoples grammer(yeah I know I spelt it wrong. live with it.) . hardly encourages people to use the forum. its depressing.

Billsthoughts, i agree with you on this, but i wouldn't say its down to the pedants on here that cause the problem. Neil in general is a fair-minded poster in fairness to him.

Though a title like this for people who only brief the forum would certainly make them think that keane was to be axed.

[finnpark]

just cause its in some two bit website does not mean its true, its a bull**** thread with a buill**** title and that is only spreading misinformation. Keane played tonight for the whole 90 mins and I thought he was Spurs best player.

My question remains...should he be dropped from Ireland?

Every time he plays for Ireland Ireland lose or play terrible. Im not saying he doesn't get on the ball much because he does but what does he do with it?

[Billsthoughts]

Billsthoughts, i agree with you on this, but i wouldn't say its down to the pedants on here that cause the problem. Neil in general is a fair-minded poster in fairness to him.

Though a title like this for people who only brief the forum would certainly make them think that keane was to be axed.

yeah but a bit of perspective. if you are on the forum it means you actually have access to internet if you wanted to check its veracity. also its a football forum not current affairs one. a bit of leeway is allowed.

[NeilMcD]

Yeah so much access to the internet that you could post up Dion Fannings article something you were incapable of doing on another thread.


The title of the thread said Robbie Keane axied. It did not have a question mark it was a satement. Therefore it was incorrect and should be corrected. I have no problem if Finnpark started a thread saying that Robbie Keane should be axed and then went about explaining his reasons for it. THat is what the forum is about. But basic non truths are not what the forum is about. It was clear that Finnpark did not like Keane as a player but instead of discussing his merits for Ireland he posts up inaccurate team news before a game.


Also Finnpark, you will find that we won against Wales and he set up the goal for that game. Secondly I would ask when was the last time that we actually did play well with or without Robbie Keane. He is the captain and he is high profile therefore he gets most of the criticism. If we play him in his proper position just off Doyle or even a bit deeper we will get the best out of him. Playing him as the lone striker will not work and it is not fair on him.


Again I also would like to repeat that he was the best Spurs player last night in a game that they were very unlucky to lose. Fair play to Everton as they set about their job in the correct manner but it was one of those nights were not much luck went Spurs way. These are the words of Garry McAllister and Andy Gray who by the way is an ex Everton player. So its not all doom and gloom at Spurs. I have been on this board about 4 years now and every so often there is a thread started with Keane on his way out of Spurs or he is about to be dropped or something along those lines. Everytime he proves these posters wrong and does the business for Spurs. Its like a broken record and this stage and it is pretty clear that Jol rates him very highly and so he should.

[Billsthoughts]

Yeah so much access to the internet that you could post up Dion Fannings article something you were incapable of doing on another thread.

What is the relevance of this comment? I looked I couldn’t see it within a couple of minutes so I gave up looking for it. Big deal.

The title of the thread said Robbie Keane axied. It did not have a question mark it was a satement. Therefore it was incorrect and should be corrected. I have no problem if Finnpark started a thread saying that Robbie Keane should be axed and then went about explaining his reasons for it. THat is what the forum is about. But basic non truths are not what the forum is about. It was clear that Finnpark did not like Keane as a player but instead of discussing his merits for Ireland he posts up inaccurate team news before a game.

I was listening to the radio most of yesterday and the impression I would have gotten was that spurs were going to drop Keane. so he hardly just pulled it out of nowhere. And if the title of the thread bothers ya that much just pm a moderator or report the post.

Also Finnpark, you will find that we won against Wales and he set up the goal for that game. Secondly I would ask when was the last time that we actually did play well with or without Robbie Keane. He is the captain and he is high profile therefore he gets most of the criticism. If we play him in his proper position just off Doyle or even a bit deeper we will get the best out of him. Playing him as the lone striker will not work and it is not fair on him.

He gets a lot of criticism I would say because he seems undroppable regardless of the performance. He wasn’t that great against wales. His workrate against czech rep was excellent which probably just adds to peoples frustrations with him

Again I also would like to repeat that he was the best Spurs player last night in a game that they were very unlucky to lose. Fair play to Everton as they set about their job in the correct manner but it was one of those nights were not much luck went Spurs way. These are the words of Garry McAllister and Andy Gray who by the way is an ex Everton player. So its not all doom and gloom at Spurs. I have been on this board about 4 years now and every so often there is a thread started with Keane on his way out of Spurs or he is about to be dropped or something along those lines. Everytime he proves these posters wrong and does the business for Spurs. Its like a broken record and this stage and it is pretty clear that Jol rates him very highly and so he should.

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Well if Andy Gray says it it must be true…..I don’t think he has ever performed over a full season with spurs as was pointed out earlier in the thread…

[bellavistaman]

Emmm..... Long, Stokes, Murphy and O'Donovan.

There not good enough to clean robbie keanes shoes in my opinion. Cant see how were mouthing him off, hes the coountrys top scorer, kept his place for spurs with fierce competition, scored some great goals last season, and had a formidable partnership with berbatov. We need a bigger player up front with him.

O'Donovan to replace Robbie Keane, unbelievable

[paul_oshea]

he has never reallly scored a great goal though for us has he in fairness?

a guy i work with is a spurs supporter and he was saying keane is undroppable, he thinks he is unreal, he said he was at the pre-season friendly v torino and the volley he got was unreal, he actually called it genius.

[Stuttgart88]

I have to say that the title of the thread is stupid & misleading.

I'm not a member of the grammar police on foot.ie but for a while I couldn't figure out if it was an old thread regurgitated or what the hell it was supposed to mean, because from this morning's papers it looks like Robbie played the whole game last night.

By all means debate the merits & demerits of selecting a player who I personally think would get into to any second tier nations' teams and wouldn't be far off some of the top tier teams either, but don't title threads with incorrect statements of fact.

Finnpark: when you say he gets on the ball but does nothing with it, he was the guy who passed the ball to Ireland for his winner against Wales. "Whenever he plays we are sh1t or lose." Even if that were true, do you think that Robbie is the only factor?

For the umpeenth time I'll contend that Robbie is infuriating with his complaining and trying to do too much with the ball, but he is a genuinely really good player who would have far more of an impact for us if we had a better midfield. His heading is poor but he's capable of scoring and creating good goals and is genuinely a handful for the opposition. I don't think he should be dropped.

Was Keane good last night?

Anyone else care to debate this topic? Spelling & grammar mistakes are allowed. Clear untruths aren't.

[tetsujin1979]

he has never reallly scored a great goal though for us has he in fairness?

Just off the top of my head
VS Holland in 2005
VS Russia in 2002

[Billsthoughts]

duff scored v russia no? and that was 2003 or something.
think you mean germany in 2002
great match winning goal. but his contributions have not been great since.
a very talented player who you just cant rely on to score you important goals. as soon as Ireland realise that fact we might actually get the best out of him.

[Claret Murph]

Funny but Robbie will always fall into the love him hate him sort of guy . I for one love him and I think himself and Doyle will be a great act together for Ireland in the years to come .

[onephillyhughes]

Emmm..... Long, Stokes, Murphy and O'Donovan.

Stokes doesn't even play up front. Long, decent but unproven. Roy is completely unproven, maybe in time. Don't rate Murphy, hope he proves me wrong.

So Doyle is the only one I can think of!

Keane seems to prefer playing off the front now. I think the problem for us is that he does it too much for Ireland, he drops off and wants the ball and then when he gets it, theres no one up top!

Have him and Doyle actually played a full game together? He's our one classy player, his touch is top notch, he has good vision and has an eye for goal. Why would you drop him, for someone who hasn't even played in a top league yet (O'Donovan)? In time, yes, Roy could be a top player, but throwing him in next month in 2 vital games? I think I'll have an experienced premiership striker please.

[onephillyhughes]

duff scored v russia no? and that was 2003 or something.
think you mean germany in 2002
great match winning goal. but his contributions have not been great since.
a very talented player who you just cant rely on to score you important goals. as soon as Ireland realise that fact we might actually get the best out of him.

Exactly, play him off Doyle and I think we could see a great partnership.

[Dotsy]

I thought he played very well in the first half last night. Linked play up very well from midfield to Berbatov and Bent up front. Very lively and always looked a threat.

Second half he was asked to play much deeper and wasn't nearly as effective. Spurs in general seemed to run out of ideas after Bebatov had a great header come back off the post after 10 minutes of the second half.

Over the ninety minutes Everton deserved to win imo.

[NeilMcD]

What is the relevance of this comment? I looked I couldn’t see it within a couple of minutes so I gave up looking for it. Big deal.


I was listening to the radio most of yesterday and the impression I would have gotten was that spurs were going to drop Keane. so he hardly just pulled it out of nowhere. And if the title of the thread bothers ya that much just pm a moderator or report the post.


He gets a lot of criticism I would say because he seems undroppable regardless of the performance. He wasn’t that great against wales. His workrate against czech rep was excellent which probably just adds to peoples frustrations with him

Well if Andy Gray says it it must be true…..I don’t think he has ever performed over a full season with spurs as was pointed out earlier in the thread…[/QUOTE]


Andy Gray talks ****e sometimes but I was just saying that him and Gary McAllister said he Spurs were unlucky. Why did you leave out the Gary Mc Allister bit. Cause you wanted to depict me as some sort of Sky Sports drone.


You make the point that anybody can check stuff up on the internet and therefore its ok to have titles of threads which are not true. As I said if its that easy to use the interent why did you not find the article. The reason being is that not everybody is totally au fait with the working of the interent and in addition the Star and Herald regularly run stories direcly from this site. It would not suprise me that they run a story over the next few days saying that a number of Ireland Supportes want Keane to be dropped for Ireland.


Marin Jol never said he was going to drop Keane and this was a story made up by clueless reporters who had nothing better to do. Of course certain people believed it because it suits their agenda to have a go at Keane. But dont let the facts get in the way.

[shakermaker1982]

Keano looked hungry last night, he chased lost causes all night long and impressed me with his attitude. Berbatov in comparison looked mopey and does not look the player who lit up the PL last year. Still early days in the season to be saying this but I'd always pick Keano to partner Berbatov than Bent/Defoe.

Keane must partner Doyle in Denmark and in both our away games next month.

[Billsthoughts]

thanks Neil. am still laughing at that post.

[NeilMcD]

No prob bill, glad i provided some humour on a wednesday morning. Keep up the good work.

[tetsujin1979]

duff scored v russia no? and that was 2003 or something.
think you mean germany in 2002

Got slightly confused. Robbie scored a header against Russia in a friendly before the World Cup in 2002: http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...on-316980.html
It was Steven Reid who scored the other goal in that game
The goal I'm thinking of was against Denmark a month later: http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...ot-315064.html
Keane scored a belter from outside the area