QuoteFree header, 4 yards out, misses. Enough said.
I'm not criticising O'Driscoll. He's a fabulous player, I was trying to point out that it's stupid of Kelly to downplay Keane's contribution to Irish sport.Originally Posted by BonnieShels
Free header, 4 yards out, misses. Enough said.
So you're going to judge his whole career on one miss?? Every striker misses chances, every goalkeeper makes a boo boo from time to time, midfielders lose possession, defenders make mistakes. They are human not machines. Wouldnt surprise me in the slighest if he scores the winner on tuesday.
It was a shocker, absolutely rubbish effort. Easier than the very similar header he missed in the exact same position late in the home game against the Czechs.
There are no excuses, but I think the way we play very few of our forward players get a proper feel for the ball at any stage of the game.
Also very similar to the header he nailed under pressure away to Cyprus.
Which makes it more frustrating.
I'm not criticising his whole career. He's got plenty of credit in the goodwill bank. But it was a shocking miss, and more so because it was by a guy who specialises in composure in front of goal.
How bad was Dunne's miss? I haven't seen it again. It looked like Sledge might have put him off.
I'm going to base my earlier opinion that he should retire on that miss. What he has done previously in his careeris irrelevant. He is not up to the job at this point in time, and his semi-retirement in LA is not going to help matters.
Dunne's came at him very quickly and he was probably expecting St. Ledger to get to it. He could have done better but it was a tough ask.
Are you on about the head and shoulder effort? I have little doubt that Robbie should have nailed it.
Wasn't it similar to the one he missed against the Czechs? Sometimes you could wring his neck
A daft article - however I don't think the goal that put us through to the knockout stages can be written off as a consolation.
Agree its stupid of Kelly to downplay Keane's contribution.
Its equally stupid of anyone to downplay O'Driscoll's role. For example by suggesting he has failed on the worlds biggest stage.
Me neither, he is well capable of it, however, had he put away his penalty V Slovakia away, and his header last night we wouldnt need a winner from him on Tuesday. The group would be ours, or as good as, already. I admire Keane, he has done well for Ireland, always turns up and you feel it means so much to him to be our record goalscorer. He has forged an admirable career from his undoubted talent, but those two misses could be about to cost us our place in the finals, and the record books dont show those, he will still be the be all and end all of Irish goalscorers after this campaign, but those misses, to me, demonstrate why so many still harbour doubts about him as a true world class player, and with some justification.
They are the margins, and for all his goals in this present campaign, its those two missed chances which could define it.
Last edited by CraftyToePoke; 04/09/2011 at 4:19 AM.
Keane's miss was a bad one, but it wasn't an easy chance, trying to head the ball down with the keeper near him putting him off. It looks easy, but it's technically a difficult chance. But every forward misses chances, he's still a world-class forward, and if he scores the winner on Tuesday, his critics will have egg on the face again.
Dunne's miss on the other hand is a shocker. It looked bad in the stadium, it looked worse on tv. Just knock it back where it came from and it's 3 points. But it's a long time since we won a qualifier in the last minute.
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His movement to get in to the position shows he still has that gift. We have no one else of that quality. Strikers miss opportunities. If they had to retire every time they miss a chance, we'd have a forward line of defenders but hang on Dunne missed one as well.
Unbelievable criticism. The time for Robbie to go is when he isn't getting in to those positions. He'll miss some to be sure but like in France/Macedonia he'll also score some.
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
are you for real not an easy chance if centre forward missed that chance at a juniour sunday afternoon game we would be shocked technically difficult !! you head the ball not shoulder it when you are unmarked in front of goal a world class forward would not miss it. once again keanes misses could cost us dearly.. and then you try to blame it all on richard dunne after his chance in last few mins way more difficult chance than Keanes but he still should have done better .
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If he hit the keeper with his header, then fair enough. He missed it altogether though. Unlike Georgia at home, when he scored with his shoulder, he didn't get away with it. As Geysir & I have already pointed out, it was the same mistake as against the Czechs.
I think he had his eye on the approaching keeper and was reluctant to put his head fully into it for fear of injury. Whether cowardly or responsible is open to interpretation, I guess.
Explain to me how it could be construed as responsible?
A nasty head injury might prevent him from doing his cartwheels with Galaxy.
In seriousness, I dunno. I'm not really defending his hesitation - it was a horrible miss, no doubt about it - but I'm trying to think of why he didn't put his head fully into it and the only thing I can think of is that he feared a heavy clash to the head from the oncoming keeper. A miscalculation on his part, sure, but I'm guessing that's how he perceived it.
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