QuoteIN YOUR OPINION anyway Defoe is better then Robbie but not that better.
Imo opinion Jermaine Defoe easily has the potential to become a world class striker where as Robbie keane definatley does notOverrated? Defoe is rated at £17m, Keane probably £4m. No need to tell you which one is the overrated one.
IN YOUR OPINION anyway Defoe is better then Robbie but not that better.
Ok then well what can keane do? He is not prolific and he is not a playmaker forward so what major quality does he bring to a premiership team?
He keeps on trying for 90 minutes and gets into good positions, and generally hassles defenders. He is frustrating sometimes but i still think he is quality.Originally Posted by Dyl10
Not profilic? He started 29 games last season, he scored 17 goals. In his Spurs career he started 98 games and has scored 46 goals. He is a top Premiership striker and he will get better.
Jermaine Defoe is very overrated for one single fact - he's an England international. If all the English players were as good as they were made out to be they'd be winning every international competition year in year out. But the reality is that they win nothing and that's unlikely to change IMO.
Robbie Keane is a better player than Defoe. He was Tottenham's player of the season the season before last and he scored as many goals as Defoe for the majority of the season. Defoe just got off to a better start.
He also creates far more opportunities for his teammates than Defoe and has a better all round game. Defoe, other than scoring a few goals, has very little else to his game and is not good enough to ever become a regular for England unless he improves dramatically in the coming seasons.
Last edited by youngirish; 05/07/2005 at 11:44 AM.
Well if you are trying to find out who has a better record you have to forget about international games because there is no comparison between english strikers(Owen,Rooney,Johnson,Defoe,heskey and many more) and Irish strikers(Keane,Morrison,Elliot). So just look at games for spurs Robbie keane................................ Jermain DefoeLast season, in club and international games, Keane played 54 games, of which 38 were starts. Defoe also played 54 games, of which 38 were also starts.
Keane scored 22 goals, Defoe scored 23.
Appearances: 45(16)...................... Appearances: 44(9)
Goals: 17..................................... Goals: 22
I think defoes record is clearly better and he is two years younger.
Robbie Keane is Ireland's all time record scorer at the age of 24 and has a International goal scoring record is nearly one in two. Yeah, he's brutal.
I dont remember calling him Brutal! I think over rated are the words i used and tbh i dont see how being irelands record scorer proves that you are a top class international striker considering we have only ever qualified for 3 world cupsRobbie Keane is Ireland's all time record scorer at the age of 24 and has a International goal scoring record is nearly one in two. Yeah, he's brutal.
You did say he should join West Ham as he won't get more than a year's first team anywhere else which suggests you don't think he's good enough for a better premiership club (and basically every other team is better than West Ham).I dont remember calling him Brutal! I think over rated are the words i used and tbh i dont see how being irelands record scorer proves that you are a top class international striker considering we have only ever qualified for 3 world cups
Don't judge him on being Ireland's top scorer then. How many "over rated" International strikers can boast a similar strike rate?
benni Mcarthy does! and he is looking for a move to blackburnDon't judge him on being Ireland's top scorer then. How many "over rated" International strikers can boast a similar strike rate?
No my point was that defoe has 3 starts for England EVER whereas Keane must have 50 starts for ireland, so how can you compare there international records when they both play for differant countrys. Defoe would clearly have more than 1 international goal if he was irish simply because he would have been in the national at least 2-3 years ago because there is less competition for places up front for ireland and i guarantee you robbie keane would not have 5 starts for england if he was englishI completely fail to follow your logic. Defoe played ten times for England last season (3 starts) and scored one goal. Are you are suggesting that because he played alongside better players, his poor international record last season should be ignored? How does that work?
Benny McCarthy has a champions League winners medal and was the top scorer in Portugal under Mourinho. Pretty good player IMO.
Heskey has a geansai load of England caps and Darius Vassell has more than 5. Robbie is better than both.
Johnaten Greening has a champions league medal!Benny McCarthy has a champions League winners medal and was the top scorer in Portugal under Mourinho. Pretty good player IMO.
In fairness at the time heskey deserved his England caps as he was playing extremely well for liverpool.Heskey has a geansai load of England caps
What relevance does this have? if he had more than 50 well then you would have a pointDarius Vassell has more than 5
He got a medal for sitting on the bench vs Bayern. Benny McCarthy spearheaded Porto's attack for the entire campaign and was their top scorer that season.
Wouldn't have found to many England fans at the time to agree with you there. 43 England appearnances 6 goals.
What relevance does it have? you said "robbie keane would not have 5 starts for england if he was english". Darius Vassell has 22 caps despite been a considerably less potent striker than Robbie.
Anyway i'm bored now.
Last post on this in awnser to your question my original point was that Robbie Keane will find it difficult to start for any premeirship team bar the bottom 5 teams and im sorry to anger you again but he is over rated!!!! and i did not bring Defoe into this thread somebody else did!
I can only get the stats for the premiership but in the Prem Keane played 2196 football, scored 11 goals and got 6 assists. I can think of at least 3 or 4 games which he played in midfield too. Defoe played 2516, scored 13 goals and got 2 assists. If Defoe is worth 17m and being linked to the likes of Chelsea, Keane is very much underrated.
typical. if an irish player isn't getting the same attention as keane and duff and as a striker not scoring goals like henry then he must be over rated.
another arse of a thread.
Tbh thats ******! I am a huge fan of Stephen Elliot and Graham Kavanagh and neither of these are getting the same attention as keane or dufftypical. if an irish player isn't getting the same attention as keane and duff and as a striker not scoring goals like henry then he must be over rated.
Italian newspapers were linking Sampdoria with Robbie Keane yesterday.
A move abroad the season leading to a championships wouldn't be too much of a gamble
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