Keane in line to start after all, according to the Times.
Keane in line to start after all, according to the Times.
Keano back! Thank God!
http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2010/...anerobbie.html
If you're in the penalty area and don't know what to do with the ball, put it in the net and we'll discuss the options later
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Im gettin seriously p1ssed off with this forum. The captain of our country is getting abuse for wanting to turn up and actually play for us.People saying Leon Best should have started instead, why??? he has done ok in a couple of brief appearances and has yet to score since he went to Newcastle. By the time the next friendly comes along people will be calling for the next flavor of the month to start. Robbie Keane scored 6 goals in the last campaign to get us within a sniff of quaifying and has smashed the previous standing goalscoring record for the national team.... and yet some a$$hole calls Owlsfan sad because he says Robbie Keane is a hero.
I got a PM this evening from a poster on this forum that has been here for years, long before me, and he is one of the members I would respect the most.He asked me how Im managing to keep posting here because so many idiots have taken over what was always a very good place for proper discussions about football.He said he cant bring himself to do it anymore and Im really beginning to see his point.
Its really not that complicated!!!
Fully agree Razor, I used to come here to get find out the general feeling of real Irish fans but not anymore. Some threads aren't worth opening.
I agree with the general sentiment, but in this case I do think we've missed a trick. We know exactly how good Robbie is, but it would have been interesting to see Leon and Doyle play together. Every time Best has come on, he's had to slot into Doyle's target man role, even though he has bags of pace and sees himself in the number 10 role playing off a target man. Wouldn't it have been more instructive to see how he handled it, or to switch his and Doyle's roles and seeing how Doyle did as the off-man?
I'm sure Doyle and Keane know each other a little better having had another match under their belts, but we're never going to improve our options if we don't try out more combinations up front.
Charlie I have no problem at all with some experimentation, far from it. But what I do have a problem with is slagging off Robbie Keane because he has the audacity to want to actually play.All Robbie can do is make himself availible and its up to the manager to decide what team to pick from there on.
I would have like to see Robbie be subbed last night as it happens because I thought he was very poor on the night and I would have liked to see Stokes or Best come on to play alongside Doyle who in my opinion was brilliant.But as I keep saying, the training camp and the 2 games in the end of season are the places to do the sort of mass experimentation on the team that some are advocating.
Last night was a very high profile game against one of the top sides in world football,call me old fashioned but I want us to be able to compete in those type of games and that means getting our best availible team on the pitch and that includes our captain and all time record goalscorer
Its really not that complicated!!!
Perfect post Razor. Brazil is not the sort of team you experiment against. We had enough enforced changes as it was last night -- putting out an experimental team to get thrashed by Brazil would be counterproductive.
2-0 is respectable, and the team can be happy with its first half performance against one the best sides in the world. Like you say, the time for experimentation will be during the training camp and the two friendlies at the end of the season.
Yeah, there's a decent argument on both sides of the issue, but I still think Keane has a responsibility as the skip to look at the bigger picture and realise that we have far less experience up front than in any other position. At the same time, he and Doyle are still a little bit like strangers on the pitch, but they didn't seem to get any closer last night either.
The Keane & Doyle thing up front hasn't worked out so far and I don't think it will sadly, Best & Stokes must be given experience against top opposition.
Everybody lashed Trap for Glen Whelan at the start but with experience he has come on leaps and bounds. I don't fault Keane and Givens committment to Ireland but I think especially with Given playing too many freindlies is detrimental to any other keeper in the squad. Also I would not class Keane as a hero as he did fluff the chances to put Ireland on the plane for South Africa against France. A vital player for Ireland all the same.
Typical Yappie. Focuses on the negative and never accentuates the positive. If Keane hadn't scored, we wouldn't have got to extra time in the first place. Apparently he now has to take 100% of his chances and no doubt Yapster would even then still find fault.
As for the team, neither Given nor Keane picks the team. That is the manager's job. All a player can do is make himself available and not that many would have shown willingness to turn up on a Tuesday after a draining game the previous Sunday.
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
I must have fallen asleep and missed all that extra time drama.
Even when Robbie takes his chances the morons would moan about his goal celebration.
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