Keane never played at Coventry with Dublin, he moved there a full season after Dion went to Villa.Originally Posted by 4tothefloor
Doesn't really do your chances of being taken seriously much good...
Ou-est le Centre George Pompidou?
Newstalk had him in Madrid yesterday but the sky cameras had him at Anfield.
He is our all time leading scorer by a country mile. He has given and will give great service
He is also a confidence player and badly needs a move today. Fingers crossed he will get it.
Keane flew to Albania like 3 days after his dad passed to play for his nation ...No one can ever fault his heart !
I lost interest when you said from football365From the football365 site, sums Keane up in a few words
liverpoolbob
"wedjwants, I admit I'm wrong about Keane not being good at anything. I've seen some world class air shots, some spectacular falling over, a good bit of non-productive energy use and some really impressive hard done by expressions. I should try to give a more balanced view, Sorry.
Its really not that complicated!!!
so much of this irrates me...
Stick to supporting your beloved reds..
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keane is the best irish forward we've had for the last 20+ years... a man who has given good service to his country INCLUDING THE LAST 7 YEARS!!!
1st post to back aidz here. Robbie may be frustrating at times but his positional sense is top notch and before liverpool he was a master at getting into a "sitter" position and knocking them in.
Its pretty simple - the media attention got to him at liverpool, you could see it when he made some cockups like the preston game and then would look to pass rather than shoot.
Going back to Tottenham is the best thing for him and Ireland, especially since he'll feel the need to prove himself. Benitez is a prat
It's well known that one of the reasons Keane has been sold is because of his attitude around the club. Namely his constant moaning, his attitude when being substituted, his stoney faced glares when sitting on the bench and his general inability to deal with the fact that at a trophy chasing club there are no automatic starters, especially for under-performers. His mutterings to himself and to supporters when being substituted were both hilarious and pathetic. His assertion to Jamie Carragher that Benitez 'speaks to players like you're a YTS' shows that Keane belongs at a club like Spurs where players are often bigger than the club. His stoney faced demeanour in the dressing room and around the club when not selected was something Benitez and other senior players did not appreciate and it's been known for sometime that Keane was on his way out - you can go back months ago to Mark Lawrenson's clanger when he revealed in the media that Steven Gerrard had told him Keane would be gone in the January window - look who was proved right.
The sale was made all the more easier because Keane was not Benitez's signing. He was deliberately frozen out towards the end and the resultant sale is a victory for Benitez over Rick Parry. Benitez recently turned down a new contract because he wants Parry relieved of all control of transfers and the control transferred to him. The main reason being years of incompetence on Parry's part culminating in August with the Gareth Barry transfer being vetoed and Robbie Keane being signed instead. Benitez has, rightly or wrongly, made an example of Keane to illustrate that chief executives should have no say on what player signs or on any footballing matters.
Now, you can choose to believe what you want to believe, that's you're choice. I'd expect no less from a Dub supporting Keane tho - it's the same on the Liverpool forums but I will not judge a player on his nationality etc, rather his actual performance and attitude - and Keane stank on both counts. Best of luck to him at Spurs, but his Anfield failure was no one's fault but his own
Benitez Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...t-signing.html
Carragher Source: http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...l-in-the-cards
Pardon me, but it was the mighty San Marino and Faroe Islands I was thinking of. That actually makes all the difference, good man for pointing it out. Maybe you could now name me all of Robbies goals against top tier international sides since the 2002 world cup? No friendlies now!
That may be your opinion mate but mine is that Keane is over-rated. He usually flops when the chips are down. I'd rate Quinn's/Aldridge's quality over quantity goals myself. Robbie's record is good but it's padded out with a lot of fodder
You're right, my bad. Doesn't change my argument or opinion of him in any way tho
I hope Keane does well at Spurs because ultimately it may benefit Ireland, if he could start pulling the finger out that is. He's a confidence player who needs to be indulged, and they'll have plenty of time to give him that indulgence at Spurs while they try to achieve mid table mediocrity.
BTW, for anyone who says he wasn't given a "fair crack of the whip" by Benitez, here are the actual facts to blow that rubbish out of the water:
The Premier League & Keane (starting unless otherwise stated):
Sunderland (A)
Middlesborough (H)
Villa (A)
Man Utd (H)
Stoke (H)
Everton (A)
Man City (A) - (used as a sub)
Chelsea (A)
Portsmouth (H) - (used as a sub, stoppage time)
Tottenham (A)
West Brom (H)
Bolton (A)
Fulham (H)
West Ham (H)
Blackburn (A) - (unused sub)
Hull (H) - (unused sub)
Arsenal (A)
Bolton (H)
Newcastle (A) - (unused sub)
Stoke (A) - (unused sub)
Everton (H)
Wigan (A) - (used as a late sub)
Chelsea (H) - (left out of squad pre-Spurs move)
Keane and the Champions League:
Liege (A)
Liege (H)
Marseille (A) - (used as a sub)
PSV (H)
Atletico Madrid (A)
Atletico Madrid (H)
Marseille (H) - (unused sub)
Last edited by 4tothefloor; 02/02/2009 at 11:16 PM. Reason: sic
In the same post you say Robbie has no one to blame but himself yet you outline in detail that he was used as a pawn in Benitez's spat with the board.
His first few games for Liverpool he was stuck out on the left wing. How many other players can adapt to a new club while being played out of position? None that I can think of.
Once he started to find a bit of form he was dropped. He scores a great goal against Arsenal, then gets two against Bolton...then he's dropped!
I'm a Liverpool fan and I'm glad for him that he's left, because he was treated like ****.
12 goals in competitive games since 2002. Has anyone else come even close to this "abysmal" record? Even if the opposition is "cr@p", someone has to score against them and thank heavens for Robbie Keane because otherwise we would be knee deep in cr@p.
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
O.k he played alot of the games , but how many games was he substituted in.As a goalscorer you always want to stay on the field espicaly in the last twnety minutes because that is when so many goals are scored in the premier league.
Personally Robbie will see his time at Liverpool as a failure, It will hurt him even more as it is the club he loved as a boy,but he should hold his head high because in 2 months time, everybody is going to see what a fool benitez is when torres gets injured and all he has is babel ,kuyt and NGOG(dont make me laugh). Silly buisness from Mr.Benitez
Thank god he is back at the lane anyway because that is where the most goals are scored in the premier leauge anyway, 80 goals last year more goals then anywhere else
cum on the blues
I not sure of the relevance of your RK pre2002 v RK post2002 argument. Are his vital goals prior to 2002 now invalid cos he hasn't scored an important goal against what u see as an outstanding football nation in recent times. Is it like the penalty points system where if your clean for 3 yrs they'll erase the points from your licence? Or is it that u are saying that Robbie Keane isn't now the player he was preWC02. How then though could u explain his remarkable scoring rate for Tottenham in recent times against quality teams. In fact he scored aginst all of the Big 4 last season, I'm open to correction but I would suggest that he was the only player last season to score against them all.Maybe you could now name me all of Robbies goals against top tier international sides since the 2002 world cup? No friendlies now!
I would be more inclined to believe that the reason he hasn't scored as many goals against outstanding football nations is because Ireland have been rubbish since 02 and the supply has been brutal. Ireland themselves only scored one goal against the stand out nations in the last campaign. ie Germany and Czechs. In the previous campaign we only scored one goal against the stand out nations ie. France and Switzerland. He did score a superb goal in this campaign against Isreal, who actually finished ahead of us in the group so surely they must be seen as reasonable enough opposition. His performances for Ireland have been poor enough but it has been a very difficult load to carry imo.
so what exactly are you on here for then??
this is an irish football site, in a section talking about the irish international team.
Doesn't look like this holds any water and we all know Rafa just deals with FACTS!!
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...891025,00.html
I was saying in the context of me being a Liverpool fan and also being Irish, I wouldn't be backing Keane just for the sake of it because he's Irish as well. Has shag all to do with posting here or anywhere else for that matter. And I know exactly where I'm posting by the way, and am also entitled to have whatever opinion I like on Robbie Keane
Benitez is basically saying he was sold because the 'situation' was not good, i.e. what I've been saying regarding Keane's sulking rubbing off on others at the club. And Rafa always praises players when they leave, even Bellamy the Golfer got it(another who was shipped out in quick time due to his attitude)
Last edited by 4tothefloor; 03/02/2009 at 6:45 PM.
Suppose Stevie Me will be the next to go, he's clearly a disruptive influence with his off field activities. Anything's possible with RafaBenitez is basically saying he was sold because the 'situation' was not good, i.e. what I've been saying regarding Keane's sulking rubbing off on others at the club. And Rafa always praises players when they leave, even Bellamy the Golfer got it
Be careful, you'll have some Muppet accusing you of being a Jackeen if you show empathy with Robbie!
Feel exactly the same (assuming you mean "cringe" and not that you fart lillies!). Benitez IS appalling.
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As I keep saying until I am blue in the face, if Robbie doesn't score against the so-called "cr@p sides", who will? Well done Robbie. Without you, we're screwed.
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
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I'd rate Quinn's/Aldridge's quality over quantity goals myself. Robbie's record is good but it's padded out with a lot of fodder
Aldriges's only international goal against top class oppposition was against Mexico
Shh! All retired players were supremely consistent, magical world beaters and the current crop are useless wasters who should be scoring a goal every game.
You can't spell failure without FAI
ok, he is frustrating sometimes, but by the time hes done he will have over 50 international goals and our top scorer in a world cup. IF you dont think he will go down as Ireland's greatest ever striker (to date) you need ur head examined.
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