Hatrick...

[SSS]

...of defeats.

team, I think:
Devine
Carey
Daly
bennett
Greg
Rennie
Conor
Colin T
Woods
George
O'Flynn

Mucka
Mulligan
CP O'Brien

but Pats lost aswel!!!

[Peadar]

It’s inexplicable how we can be so negative away from home!
I couldn’t believe what I was hearing on RTÉ Radio 1.
“Poor supply to the strikers”,
“Can’t string two passes together”,
“Struggling with every set-piece”,
Eoin Hand thought Greg O’Halloran was Man of the Match?

We need to take the game to our opponents when we’re away.
I understand the thinking behind being cautious and trying to stop the rot but Shels were there for the taking by all accounts and their defence had a relatively quiet night.
Which personality of the Cork City team will we see at the Cross on Friday?

[Éanna]

Originally posted by Peadar
It’s inexplicable how we can be so negative away from home!

Not inexplicable. Just ask Gunther, i´m sure he´ll pull something else out of his "bizarre and ridiculous excuses" drawer.

this is currently my biggest criticism of Murphy- I mean, we play so well at home and then so poorly away, surely it´s his job to sort that out! If he´s telling players to go out and play like they do at home, and they aren´t well then he has to make changes- it´s either that or he´s telling them to play like this. Either way it´s a damning indictment of his abilities.

[niamh]

We've not been playing well for awhile, both home and away.
Think of the Derry game, which was poor, the Finn Harps game (the weather wasn't as bad at the start), and the first 50th minutes or so of the Rovers game.

The team started the season well but they aren't playing as well these days and a team that cannot win away will not win much.

[Éanna]

Originally posted by niamh
The team started the season well but they aren't playing as well these days and a team that cannot win away will not win much.

Spot on. It´s a mystery. I mean, after Bohs and Shels we probably have as many full-time players as anyone else, so playing so well in patches cannot be down to fitness

[joe]

Originally posted by Peadar
Eoin Hand thought Greg O’Halloran was Man of the Match?

note the time and the date - eoin hand gets something right

Greg was without doubt my MOTM, despite the award going to Jim Gannon on the night

[Éanna]

Originally posted by joe
note the time and the date - eoin hand gets something right

Doubtless he managed to lavish extended praise on the Baker brothers ("Ah Richie´s a great jumper, really good in the air for someone of his height" etc) whether or not they were actually playing.

[pete]

We didn't actually play that bad on friday compared to previous away days but that was mainly i think because $hel$ are so poor & have no forwards.

We don't really play negatively away but are definitely reaching new highs (no puns intended) of hoofin on the road. We have IMO the best forward in the league in John O'Flynn & he gets virtually no chances on the road as we just hoof the ball in his general direction.

All Gunther seems to look for on our travels is to our fight the opposition as we are unable or unwilling to keep any possession or try to control games against inferior teams.

IMO the only difference in our away form this season over the previous two under Gunther is we had a better defense last year. The worst thing is we haven't really been that unlucky away from the cross this year & there are no signs Liam Murphy can turn it around.

[Éanna]

Originally posted by pete
The worst thing is we haven't really been that unlucky away from the cross this year & there are no signs Liam Murphy can turn it around.

yeah, last season he said (regularly) that we were unlucky not to do better in games, and he had a point, but this season, I think we´ve been lucky not to be on the receiving end of bigger defeats

[Hecko]

Yeah -I got to agree with Eanna we didn't deserve any more on Friday. Shels played better football and the equaliser was always only a matter of time - the winner was a comedy of errors at the back, but when you don't try to win a game you don't deserve to. The service to the lads up front was non-existent and I thought O'Grady was very poor in his distribution in midfield and Billy offered nothing out wide.

How many of our lads are full time now? Because we can't keep using that excuse when Pats probbaly don't have any more than us. We might still be second, but we won't be for much longer

[niamh]

Conor was lost. Did lots of running and chasing and that was about it. Reynolds got stuck in but so many of his passes went to Shels players. It wasn't a good performance by the whole team.

[James]

thought greg played very well though
deccie was ok after he had settled into the game after the first 10 mins or so
o'grady was indeed lost

the substitutions by gunther though were baffling to say the least
each time i expected conor to be withdrawn, and each time he made a stranger and stranger choice of players to take off

match hightlight: deccie clobbering judas with a beaut of a tackle

[vssn]

We lost the Shels game cause of our midfield play, Renno was the only one to get stuck in, other 3 were v poor, we need to get Greg back into central midfield.

[Éanna]

Originally posted by Hecko
Yeah -I got to agree with Eanna we didn't deserve any more on Friday. Shels played better football and the equaliser was always only a matter of time - the winner was a comedy of errors at the back, but when you don't try to win a game you don't deserve to. The service to the lads up front was non-existent and I thought O'Grady was very poor in his distribution in midfield and Billy offered nothing out wide.

How many of our lads are full time now? Because we can't keep using that excuse when Pats probbaly don't have any more than us. We might still be second, but we won't be for much longer

I wasn´t really talking bout the shels game, cos I wasn´t there, but I can more or less imagine the entire game, cos our away performances this season have all followed the same pattern more or less.

Billy´s performances away from home have been awful, to the extent that I´d nearly suggest dropping him at this stage. It´s not that it doesn´t happen for him, he just seems to do nothing at all.

Think we have 6 full-timers, AFAIK, pats have between 6 and 8, but thats not an excuse anyway. If it was a case of us having thrown points away against pats bohs and shels in the last 10 minutes, then fitness would be a half-plausible excuse, but that doesn´t account for monaghan, harps and longford, so i would suggest the rot goes a lot deeper than that.

Originally posted by vssn
we need to get Greg back into central midfield.

think that´s a definite. Himself and reynolds really seemed to have a good understanding. I feel sorry for Grady cos he´s a great player, but if it ain´t broke, don´t fix it, as the saying goes.