Carsley called up to squad

**Dr. Ogba** · 10/10/2006, 3:02 PM

Originally Posted by eirebhoy

It's still a stronger defence than the one which started the Holland game. Hopefully McShane goes out there and leads the line as O'Brien and O'Shea certainly can't.

Absolutely..this could be a blessing in disguise and the chance of a lifetime for McShane. If he performs in this match I can't see any way back for O'Brien and we will see a future CB partner for Richie Dunne in the making.

On the other hand if he doesn't perform then we're relying on O'Shea and we're fooked!!

**drinkfeckarse** · 10/10/2006, 3:12 PM

Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

Hear Hear

One odd thing: Foley was preferred to Kelly, but Kelly now starts? Confused.

That's what struck me but then I reminded myself that 50% of Stans decisions left me feeling that way. We've talked about this before though so we'll not got here again.

Decisions like that just consolidate my view that Stan is totally out of his depth with his constant contradictory decisions.

**Istabraq** · 10/10/2006, 3:47 PM

Im very surprised Carsley didnt tell Stan where to go when he got the call. Very surprised.

**keenanboy** · 10/10/2006, 3:47 PM

I think we should show some appreciation for Lee Carsley. Snubbed for these 2 games originally and only more than willing to hop on the next plane over when many others would have told Stan to get stuffed. Fair play to him.

**Paddy Garcia** · 10/10/2006, 3:48 PM

Originally Posted by Istabraq

Im very surprised Carsley didnt tell Stan where to go when he got the call. Very surprised.

I agree, fair play to him - hope he gets an extra cheer tomorrow. Especially with so many others crying off injured.

**Closed Account 2** · 10/10/2006, 3:56 PM

Agree totally

**AustinoAsprilla** · 10/10/2006, 4:03 PM

Fair play to him. He didn't do a Ruud Van N on us... Proves a point about Englishmen playing for us who apparently don't show the same commitment and passion... Cheers Lee.

**pete** · 10/10/2006, 4:06 PM

Will Carsley retire again if he doesn't play tomorrow.

**CraftyToePoke** · 10/10/2006, 4:07 PM

i dont think anyone could have blamed Carsley, or been surprised at all if he had had just two words for Staunton , the second one being ''off''

**paul_oshea** · 10/10/2006, 4:24 PM

honestly wouldn't be suprised. Surely out of the 20 players in the squad 1 or 2 are future managers who have a bit of tactical sense and McDonald said everyone had their say. How Stan was allowed (by McDonald) to play Kilbane and Ireland in the centre I'll never know. As I said in another thread we might aswell have played 2 full backs at centre half.

eirebhoy are you not going to pick out the positives and say it wasnt that bad a result?

**Noelys Guitar** · 10/10/2006, 4:36 PM

Great attitude from Carsley.

**eirebhoy** · 10/10/2006, 7:00 PM

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

eirebhoy are you not going to pick out the positives and say it wasnt that bad a result?

I just give my view and if I usually come across as positive then great.

If I felt Staunton would come good I'd certainly be taking the positives but we're going to get nowhere with him in charge.

**carloz** · 10/10/2006, 7:13 PM

perhaps at the team meeting after the cyprus game some of the senior players pushed for Carsley to be called up!!

i would think this had something to do with it. Pity they wouldnt pt some pressure on him to call up McPhail

**DeNiro** · 10/10/2006, 7:48 PM

Well if it was the players that asked for Carsley we can at least be sure that Staunton is on a slippery slope as they will start to dictate everything soon. There's obviously no confidence in him (or themselves). Imagine Stephen Ireland (or indeed Kilbane) sitting there and saying 'yeh bring over lee, cos i'm not able to do it'. It's all a bit of a farce at this stage!

**eirebhoy** · 10/10/2006, 7:58 PM

Originally Posted by DeNiro

'yeh bring over lee, cos i'm not able to do it'.

I'm only going on what McDonald and Kelly said but it seems that the players didn't just bite their tongue at the meeting. They talked about the Cyprus match and I'd be suprised if nobody mentioned how the team lacked balance. Stan says the S.Ireland injury was the final straw and called up Carsley so I'll take his word for it.

**DeNiro** · 10/10/2006, 8:00 PM

Originally Posted by eirebhoy

I'm only going on what McDonald and Kelly said but it seems that the players didn't just bite their tounge at the meeting. They talked about the Cyprus match and I'd be suprised if nobody mentioned how the team lacked balance. Stan says the S.Ireland injury was the final straw and called up Carsley so I'll take his word for it.

I take your point eirebhoy and I agree with it. It's probably to do with injuries. But Stephen Ireland wasn't injured at the time of the meeting. So, it does suggest a doubt in Staunton or their own ability.

BaZmO* · 10/10/2006, 11:31 PM

Originally Posted by pete

Will Carsley retire again if he doesn't play tomorrow.

And would you blame him?

Besides, he is retired. He only offered to com back to help us out cos we're stuck and very badly st that.

**citizenerased** · 10/10/2006, 11:39 PM

lads you know times are tough when were pinning all our hopes on a below average footballer like carsley

**eirebhoy** · 11/10/2006, 12:14 AM

Originally Posted by citizenerased

lads you know times are tough when were pinning all our hopes on a below average footballer like carsley

Would people like to back up these types of statements? Even quote someone?

**drinkfeckarse** · 11/10/2006, 7:59 AM

He's got a point though eirebhoy. I've said it before that Carsley is a decent enough player but no messiah by any means. I really don't think he'll make that much of a difference.

I don't recall anyone saying anything too positive about him whenever he appeared for us and there was hardly a murmur when he retired. I find the clamour for his return indicative of just how far we've fallen.