North Korea nuclear test.

**Dodge** · 10/10/2006, 11:33 AM

Lim till i die, leave liam's (and everyone else's) religon out of this. Consider this a warning

**liam88** · 10/10/2006, 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by Lim till i die

Point 1. Prove it to me

Point 2. So do I but without the usual American intervention followed by puppet government followed by coup followed by dictatorship followed by American Intervention followed by............

Point 3. Compared to the rest of Latin America Cuba is a pretty groovy place to live - fact!

1. I just gave you quotes by an independent doctor-just a start. I could write you a 60 page report of facts about China's human rights abuses but I'm working on my degree and frankly you probably still won't believe anything unless you see a woman strelised or have electrodes rammed uo her vagina for youtself.

2. American intervention followed by the restoration of the democratically elected government who has the support of 95% of the population is more likely.

3. Unless you're a journalist.

Mod Edit: No place for religion in this debate

**Lim till i die** · 10/10/2006, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by liam88

1. I just gave you quotes by an independent doctor-just a start. I could write you a 60 page report of facts about China's human rights abuses but I'm working on my degree and frankly you probably still won't believe anything unless you see a woman strelised or have electrodes rammed uo her vagina for youtself.

2. American intervention followed by the restoration of the democratically elected government who has the support of 95% of the population is more likely.

3. Unless you're a journalist.

1. American doctor

2. They've such a good track record with that sort of thing alright

3. Again show me proofs. Who's to say a lot of these supposed imprisioned journalists weren't trying to subvert the state.

Mod Edit: No place for religion in this debate

**pete** · 10/10/2006, 12:35 PM

Mod erator Warning: Anyone who mentions religion again in this thread gets a ban!

**BohsPartisan** · 11/10/2006, 8:16 AM

Socialist Article on Korean Nuclear Tests

Two very obvious spellling mistakes in it before any smart comments but overall a good analysis.

**pete** · 11/10/2006, 9:32 AM

Too much to read although i did like the phrase

capitalist ‘victors’

**BohsPartisan** · 11/10/2006, 10:28 AM

Its not that long. Only took me about 5 minutes to read. The guy who wrote it is from County Down.

**Lim till i die** · 11/10/2006, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by BohsPartisan

Its not that long. Only took me about 5 minutes to read. The guy who wrote it is from County Down.

Ahh, a Northerner, that would explain the spelling and grammar

**BohsPartisan** · 11/10/2006, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by Lim till i die

Ahh, a Northerner, that would explain the spelling and grammar

The Grammar is fine. Bad or no proofreading and the insidious influence of "spellcheck" would explain the two glaring spelling mistakes.
Any comment on the actual article?

**Lim till i die** · 11/10/2006, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by BohsPartisan

The Grammar is fine. Bad or no proofreading and the insidious influence of "spellcheck" would explain the two glaring spelling mistakes.
Any comment on the actual article?

Thought it was good to be honest. Brought up a lot of hypocrisys (spelling??

) which just don't get mentioned in the mainstream media (English Independant excepted)

**ccfcman** · 13/10/2006, 8:01 AM

Back on topic?

I'm rather surprised at the pressure China is putting on Pyongyang, really does show they are making strides in allying themselves to the western world in matters such as this.

With the immense pressure from China, who N.Korea would have been allies with back in the day, South Korea, Japan and the US, it seems only logical the lads will chill out a wee bit.

Also shows, that the US went the wrong way about things, 'twas N.Korea was the threat all along, not Iraq, and in my opinion,certainly not Iran.

**BohsPartisan** · 13/10/2006, 8:02 AM

We were on topic, the article was about the North Korean Nuclear tests.

**ccfcman** · 13/10/2006, 8:05 AM

The Grammatical and spelling errors were a bit too blaz� for me

**BohsPartisan** · 13/10/2006, 8:27 AM

There were two spelling errors, no gramatical errors and your use of the word blaz� is altogether baffling.

Back on topic, IMO the biggest threat to the international security is the U.S.A. Biggest nuclear arsenal and the only country to have used a nuclear weapon.

**jebus** · 17/10/2006, 3:08 PM

Who'd have thought the lads from Team America could have called this so correctly eh?

The only thing I'd like to add to this thread is that I'm sick and tired of anti-Americans using any little thing as a method to attack that country.

'North Korea, and their insane dictator get their hands on an atomic bomb, sure its only because of big, bad America saying that that murderous tyrant may be a bit evil'.

'Some guy kills some children in Canada, sure that's typical of America'.

'The French armed the RGF in Rwanda, and along with Britain, Russia, America and the UN refused to use the term genocide but let's chuck the whole blame on America, sure why not we're blaming them for everything else.

Don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of the US, but it's really starting to grate me that whenever something happens that becomes a talking point the conversation constantly turns into a 'did you know that George Bush blah blah blah', or 'that's because America gave them a few crates of orange juice back in the 70s'. Can we never stick to talking about the chosen subject, i.e. North Korea? I mean I remember when America invaded Afghanastan and there was an anti-war protest on North Main St in Cork and two or three people had Iraq flags with a picture of Saddam on it, can no-one else see how ridiculous it's become when you go to an anti-war rally and wave flags of another butchering tyrant, simply because he stands in opposition to America? At this stage I strongly believe that if Hitler was forming his Third Reich nowadays that he'd be able to muster up quite a lot of the, how shall I say this, 'crusty support' simply because he'd have opposed America

**BohsPartisan** · 17/10/2006, 6:04 PM

No one here is siding with NK but the US is the only country to ever use nuclear weapons. Not to point out that hypocricy would be, well, hypocricy.

**jebus** · 17/10/2006, 6:13 PM

Originally Posted by BohsPartisan

No one here is siding with NK but the US is the only country to ever use nuclear weapons. Not to point out that hypocricy would be, well, hypocricy.

Truth be told I think you're the only who has made that point BohsPartisan, but really my complaint is about all threads/conversations on any international situation, not just North Korea and/or nuclear capability

**Lim till i die** · 18/10/2006, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by jebus

Truth be told I think you're the only who has made that point BohsPartisan, but really my complaint is about all threads/conversations on any international situation, not just North Korea and/or nuclear capability

HE'S WEARING A WIRE!!

**pete** · 27/10/2006, 2:05 PM

Read an excellent article on the whole North Korea situation yesterday by the South Korea Foreign Minister who I believe will be the next UN Chief. was in the Herald Tribune but I cannot find link to.

Anyway he suggested there 3 solutions to crisis.
- Military: Discounted as solution would not supported by neghbours & a lot of people in South Korea & even Japan would die.
- Sanctions: Been done before but not achieved anything. Would only encourage North Korea to sell missle technology as means of raising funds.
- Dialogue: Only possible solution left. Called on the US to learn from history i.e. failure to talk never solved any conflict e.g. USSR, China, Korean War, Vietnam War etc... Said that the US should guarantee the North not be attacked in exchange for ending nuclear programme & allowing inspections. The North has offered this before & should be given a chance to follow through on promises.

Made a lot of sense to me & really showed Bush up as head in the sand type, all rethoric & no results.